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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #1
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War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle

War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle
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Apr 15, 2013
By Todd Starnes

A decorated war veteran on a Boy Scout hike with his 15-year-old son was arrested alongside a Texas country road after a police officer accused him of “rudely displaying” a firearm.

Army Master Sgt. C.J. Grisham told Fox News he was illegally disarmed by members of the Temple Police Dept. – even though he held the proper permits to carry his weapons.

Grisham and his son were on a 10-mile hike in a rural area populated by wild boars and cougars. He was carrying an AR-15 rifle and a .45 caliber pistol.

He was charged with resisting arrest – even though video his son filmed of the incident clearly showed that Grisham did not resist arrest. Police later reduced the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty – a class B misdemeanor.

“I’m still frankly and honestly 100 percent confused about what I’m being charged with,” Grisham said.

Temple Police told local media that the Fort Hood soldier refused to hand of his weapon – leading to his arrest. However, the video shows that Grisham complied with their demands.

One of the officers told Grisham that anyone holding a gun is considered dangerous, according to a 15-minute video obtained by Fox News.

“In this day and age people are alarmed when they see someone with what you have,” one of the officers told a handcuffed Grisham. “They don’t care what the law is.”

At one point in the video Grisham asked the officers why they failed to ask to see his carry and conceal permit.

The video shows the arresting officer telling the Fort Hood soldier that he was “rudely displaying” the AR-15.
Grisham, who is a “huge Constitutionalist,” then asked the officer if he cared what the law is.

“The easy wrong would have been to surrender my rights and allow the cops to disarm me,” he said. “That’s the easy wrong to me. The hard right is putting ourselves on the line knowing that something could happen.”

Grisham told Fox News he plans on fighting the charges and suing the police department for what he considered to be an illegal arrest and violating his Constitutional rights.

“For the first time in my life, I had to sit in jail,” he said. “I’ve never been in jail — never been accused of a crime. I was treated like a street thug.”

A pre-trial hearing has been set for May 29th.

Grisham, a well-known military blogger, is a decorated veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He’s served in the military for more than 18 years and was awarded the Bronze Star with Valor. But he came under fire within the military for a blog posting that was critical of President Obama. Columnist Michelle Malkin once wrote about Grisham’s plight.

The master sergeant, his wife and their three children live on a farm in Temple — about two miles from where he was arrested.

Grisham’s trouble with the law started in mid-March. His son Chris was working on one of the final merit badges he needed to become an Eagle Scout. Chris had chosen hiking.

Father and son grabbed their gear and headed out on a blustery Saturday morning to hike about 10 miles. They were midway through the trip when Grisham turned around and saw a police car.

“At that point I heard him tell us to hold on a second and he motioned for me and my son to come back,” Grisham said. “He didn’t have his lights on. Everything was calm and casual. He asked what we were doing.”

Grisham had his AR-15 slung around the front of his body — a rifle he’s been using since he joined the military.

At some point the officer pulled his pistol on the father and son and grabbed Grisham’s AR-15.

“He slammed me onto the hood of the car,” he said. “I had my hands straight up and that’s when I saw our camera – and turned it on.”

For the next 15 minutes, Grisham’s son recorded the entire incident.

Christopher Grisham
“I wanted to make sure that we had everything on film,” he said. “Everything that happened that day was manufactured by the police officer. We weren’t out there to make a statement. Our intention was to hike 10 miles and go home.”

By all indications, Grisham was arrested just because he was legally carrying his firearms.

And as bad as he was treated, Grisham said he is furious over how the police treated his son.

Chris followed his dad’s instructions to keep the videotape going — even though it’s clear the incident took an emotional toll on the boy. As the officers put Grisham in the back of the car, the video picked up sounds of Chris crying.

The officers told Grisham they would take the boy home.

“I told him not to answer any questions,” Grisham said. “I told him not to answer a single question until his mother was there — and she would answer the questions for him.”

But that’s not what happened.

Chris told Fox News that the police officer refused to let him out of the car until he answered a series of questions. The boy had not been arrested.

“The officer told me that I wasn’t getting out of the patrol car until I answered his questions,” Chris said. “He said I didn’t have a choice. I was scared.”

Grisham said his boy was traumatized by the incident.

“Every time he sees a police officer he has a panic attack,” he said. “That’s unfortunate because we always taught our kids to respect police officers. My wife and I are angry about it.”

He said he explained to his son that they did nothing wrong on that day.

“My son has his own copy of the Constitution,” Grisham said. “He understands his rights. He understand the concept of choosing the hard right over the easy wrong.”

Chris told Fox News that he looks up to his father — and admires him for what he did on the side of that road.

“When I grow up, I want to be like him — he inspires me,” the 15-year-old said.

Grisham said the events of last month have led him to question why he is still in the military.

“It doesn’t seem like our rights are being respected,” he said. “For me, it’s a difficult turning point. I wonder what it is that I’m fighting for. If our basic rights are being violated this way — what is my purpose?”

And as Grisham awaits his court date, Chris is gearing up to start his Eagle Scout project. The teenager will be working on a local historic cemetery – repairing headstones and replacing signs.

But the young boy wonders what will happen to his dad.

“He didn’t do anything wrong at all,” he said.

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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:45 AM   #2
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The regular cop defenders will be along shortly to tell us that they're not ALL bad.
And they'd be right. They're not ALL bad. But enough are that poison the whole well.

I'm sure someone is taking notes on who this oathbreaker is.

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A-hole swept this gentleman's head with the pistol when he removed it from his holster. Now that was rude

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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:29 AM   #4
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I have been involved in Scouting for a number of years and my older son is an Eagle Scout. Having grown up in Texas and camped and hiked with the Scouts all over our state as well as other states I have never felt the need to be armed on a hike, plus it is against the Boy Scout rules to carry firearms on Scouting functions.
It sounds like Sgt. Grisham was more about making a point that he could carry his guns than there was an actual threat of the dreaded wild boars or cougars.
I am pretty sure that here in Texas, we don't have a lot of attacks from either one of those animals and being a decorated war veteran I wouldn't think that those kind of things would worry him to much.

Just my .02

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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:29 AM   #5
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Someone better head over to the Temple PD and disarm those two dangerous and idiotic LEO's. At least remove them from duty so they don't further contaminate the whole department. I really liked the reasoning of the one LEO when he said, "I don't care what the law is..." The Temple City should give that guy an award "Best Police Officer walking without a brain".

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I have been involved in Scouting for a number of years and my older son is an Eagle Scout. Having grown up in Texas and camped and hiked with the Scouts all over our state as well as other states I have never felt the need to be armed on a hike, plus it is against the Boy Scout rules to carry firearms on Scouting functions.
It sounds like Sgt. Grisham was more about making a point that he could carry his guns than there was an actual threat of the dreaded wild boars or cougars.
I am pretty sure that here in Texas, we don't have a lot of attacks from either one of those animals and being a decorated war veteran I wouldn't think that those kind of things would worry him to much.

Just my .02
Let's not forget about all the Boy Scout merit badges for shooting....Rifle, shotgun... There are plenty.

It doesn't matter what his reasoning was, your rights aren't contingent on what the circumstances are at that time.....your rights are valid 24 hrs a day. What you are implying is you only use them selectively....and there you go giving them up.

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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:30 AM   #6
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Worst thing in the world, an officer who either doesn't know the laws he's given the authority to enforce or they believe said authority gives them carte blanche in making arrests in what he feels the law SHOULD cover but in reality doesn't.
It will be very interesting to see if the prosecutor drops all charges or goes for prosecution to protect the cops from lawsuits.

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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:32 AM   #7
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Ridiculous cop work!

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Although...I admit... I know cops who have gotten away with stone cold murder. Yup, murder. Two of them in fact... just more proof I need to retire sooner rather than later and GTFO out of KaliforniaCorruptistan!

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There's a couple pages about this already.

As I mentioned in the other thread, the guy has a bit of a history and the day after announcing he had reached $11k in donations he announced on FB that his wife and daugther were going on an shopping trip for Prom which he had told her to spend whatever she needs.

At the same time, that county has a history of firearms issues with soldiers and a very anti-gun prosecutor.

I think there is likely a lot more to this than meets the eye.

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So much for the Texas rights supporters. Looks like they have a holes there too. Way too much heavy handed crap going on everywhere. Looks like a couple of police officers need a little re training as to folks " rights ". Even in CT, I have never even been questioned about carrying my weapons. I don't think a slung rifle presents a threat to anyone in a rural area. If the gent was walking down a city street, then perhaps a police officer could ask why, but physically disarming someone is another story. Even the police need to remember they are employees of the public, not their superiors.

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I do know that if the LEO stops you, you must hand over your Concealed carry permit immediately. You must also surrender your weapon to the LEO if he asks for it. Violate any of the two and you are subject to arrest immediately.

So there is a POX on both sides of this confrontation.

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I do know that if the LEO stops you, you must hand over your Concealed carry permit immediately. You must also surrender your weapon to the LEO if he asks for it. Violate any of the two and you are subject to arrest immediately.

So there is a POX on both sides of this confrontation.
Must be a Texas thing.

Atleast in PA, you don't even have to show your license unless the officer believes you are committing a crime. Granted, carrying concealed without a permit would be a crime and justify asking to see it.

While it may be the "polite" thing to do, you have no need to turn a firearm over to a LEO unless specifally being accused of breaking a law while possessing it.

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Ummm...is the officer seriously holding the pistol with just his fingers? Or is it just the angle of the photo?

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Atleast in PA, you don't even have to show your license unless the officer believes you are committing a crime. Granted, carrying concealed without a permit would be a crime and justify asking to see it.
It's a Texas thing...I should be more clear about what is supposed to happen. IF the LEO stops you and asks for your ID, it's at that time you hand the ID AND Permit to him/her. They have the discreation to ask for your weapon during the stop, or not. BUT you must comply or a trip to the jail is next. I've never had a State Trooper ask for the weapon, just where it was and always treated very politely by them.

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I have been involved in Scouting for a number of years and my older son is an Eagle Scout. Having grown up in Texas and camped and hiked with the Scouts all over our state as well as other states I have never felt the need to be armed on a hike, plus it is against the Boy Scout rules to carry firearms on Scouting functions.
It sounds like Sgt. Grisham was more about making a point that he could carry his guns than there was an actual threat of the dreaded wild boars or cougars.
I am pretty sure that here in Texas, we don't have a lot of attacks from either one of those animals and being a decorated war veteran I wouldn't think that those kind of things would worry him to much.

Just my .02
I was in Boy Scouts and I don't remember any rules about no firearms allowed. Must have changed the rules cause my Scoutmaster ALWAYS was armed at camps.

Why is it when some one is exercising their right to do something, they must just be "trying to make a point"? Can't they be "just exercising their rights"? And when I am exercising my right to do ANYTHING, why do I need to give any one an explanation? BECAUSE I CAN, THAT IS WHY!

There are not that many people that get bit from rattlesnakes, copperheads, and cottonmouths here in Arkansas. I still carry a little .22 revolver loaded with birdshot "JUST IS CASE". Once again, whatever this man's reason for carrying his weapons, what does it matter?

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