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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:13 PM   #1
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Will You Fire On American Citizens?

This video is hard to believe, but thought I'd share it anyways. It does not name the source, but it's food for thought.

Obama To Top Brass: Will You Fire On American Citizens?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/oba...ican-citizens/

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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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I would have to see more solid proof before believing it, but even so I would not be surprised if it were true.

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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:24 PM   #3
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I well remember this topic from back during the Klinton regime...

"Consider the following statement: I would fire on U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government?"

Excerpt from link... http://thenewalexandrialibrary.com/armysurvey.html


U.S. Armed Forces Survey: This is the questionnaire that was given in 1994 to select groups of U.S. armed forces personnel. Notice the references to the U.N., the firing on American civilians and the correlations of the two aforementioned. Note questions 8‑17 deal with the use of U.S. federal armed forces intervening in the civilian affairs of the U.S. public under the pretense of policemen. According to the U.S. Constitution (posse comitatus law) No federal forces are to be used in the civil control of the populace. Also note question 46 for a stunning question concerning the use of federal forces.

Note see link for entire article... http://thenewalexandrialibrary.com/armysurvey.html


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I well remember this topic from back during the Klinton regime...

"Consider the following statement: I would fire on U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government?"

Excerpt from link... http://thenewalexandrialibrary.com/armysurvey.html


U.S. Armed Forces Survey: This is the questionnaire that was given in 1994 to select groups of U.S. armed forces personnel. Notice the references to the U.N., the firing on American civilians and the correlations of the two aforementioned. Note questions 8‑17 deal with the use of U.S. federal armed forces intervening in the civilian affairs of the U.S. public under the pretense of policemen. According to the U.S. Constitution (posse comitatus law) No federal forces are to be used in the civil control of the populace. Also note question 46 for a stunning question concerning the use of federal forces.

Note see link for entire article... http://thenewalexandrialibrary.com/armysurvey.html


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i took this survey in 98. i remember alot of those questions most of which were rephrased but the same...

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he said she said stuff.

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So, this survey is real???

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Old January 28th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #7
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So, this survey is real???
the one i took in 98 was. questions like would you fire on citizens, would you arrest citizens, would you follow un orders, would you help local authorities with... etc etc

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the one i took in 98 was. questions like would you fire on citizens, would you arrest citizens, would you follow un orders, would you help local authorities with... etc etc
So...What did you respond?

Were you aware of anybody who said 'NO!' ?

Were there any 'consequences'?

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If this is true, we are no batter off than countries with those dictators we denounce before...

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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #10
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So...What did you respond?

Were you aware of anybody who said 'NO!' ?

Were there any 'consequences'?

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everyone that im aware of said no. there were no consequences, it was a survey.

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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #11
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The only American citizens I will fire upon are the ones trying to take my property or harm my family.

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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #12
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I'd fire on US Citizens, Hell yeah!

You come in my front door while I'm in bed, I'll fire on your sorry behind no matter what country you are from..... except maybe if you were from Sweden and were part of their women's beach volleyball team.

Being a citizen does not protect you if you are breaking the law. It works both ways.

In all seriousness, I think breaking it down to citizenship is much too simple. The guy who was helping the Taliban was a citizen. Fire on him? Yes. My buddy is a Blackhawk pilot and was bringing supplies in after Katrina. They found some guy stuck on a roof, and dropped him a case of MRE's. As they were circling around to drop a case of water, they heard a 'dink' 'dink' 'dink' noise. This SOB had a pistol and was shooting at them. The door guy adjusted his aim slightly and tanked him with the case of water. He was a citizen, and deserved to get fired upon.

So, the question is much more complex. If it is truly citizens resisting proper authority, they should get fired upon. If it is citizens standing up for their legitimate rights, they should not. Problem is: who is the judge?

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Old January 28th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #13
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everyone that im aware of said no. there were no consequences, it was a survey.
According to the JPFO, in the original survey 18.6% agreed, and 7.6% strongly agreed to the question that they would fire upon a U.S. Citizen.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #14
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According to the JPFO, in the original survey 18.6% agreed, and 7.6% strongly agreed to the question that they would fire upon a U.S. Citizen.
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just saying everyone i know said no. if i remember correctly it was mostly for the junior troops

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i bet the soldiers are on our side when SHTF. especially if the little blue helmeted dudes are runnin around.

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