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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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Sheep and Sheep Dogs..

Just some random musings from a Wyoming boy...

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Sheep can never choose to become Sheep Dogs.

Sheep never understand or appreciate what Sheep Dogs do for them.

Sheep never say Thank You For Your Service to Sheep Dogs.

Just saying...



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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:45 PM   #2
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Have you been reading On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LTC Grossman?

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:46 PM   #3
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Baaaahhhhhhh......just say'n


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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:47 PM   #4
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I thought you didn't like Lt. Col. Grossman.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:48 PM   #5
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Have you been reading On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LTC Grossman?
Read it, and was also lucky enough to attend an all day lecture by Col. Grossman. It was great. On Combat is also an amazing book. Both books are definitely words to live by.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:55 PM   #6
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Have you been reading On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LTC Grossman?
Actually, He came to Wyoming and did a lot of research before writing that book...

Where do you think He got all that stuff....Central Park?



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Old January 22nd, 2013, 09:07 PM   #7
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Actually, He came to Wyoming and did a lot of research before writing that book...

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Beats the hell out of me, I didn't read the book.

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Have you been reading On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LTC Grossman?
Required reading for me. Appreciated the book in training but REALLY appreciated it later. Still trying to figure it all out.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:16 PM   #9
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Just some random musings from a Wyoming boy...

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Sheep can never choose to become Sheep Dogs.

Sheep never understand or appreciate what Sheep Dogs do for them.

Sheep never say Thank You For Your Service to Sheep Dogs.

Just saying...



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But a sheep won't bite you on the ass when you're just trying to help another sheep through the fence.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:52 PM   #10
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If I use the word Placed together in here it disappears
Sheep le HMM go figure
I am not a Sheep by any means
I am a Man who knows right from wrong
I Stand up for what is Right .
I do not believe in Political Correctness
I will and do stand up for the weak and Stupid
I will not Help the Lazy and Useless also known as the FSA Free SHI_ Army
This is why THEY (you Know whom They are) want to "Infringe"
They Fear us and for good reason

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:56 PM   #11
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Have you been reading On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LTC Grossman?
Or listening to Pink Floyd's "Animals" album.

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Good read. So is "The Modern Day Gunslinger" by Mann. Forward by Grossman as well as a lot of quotes and covers Wolves, Sheep and Sheep Dogs.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:58 PM   #13
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I'm not a fan of Grossman myself. I've read all his books and attended one of his PTSD (all day) lectures. Nothing he has written, nor said, was anything new to me.

If you've taken a few psychology courses at university, and/or are a combat veteran, you have already experienced (or know) everything Grossman says/writes.

That aside, if you have neither of those criteria, then just maybe he his worth listening to. What I consider him to be valuable at is his ability to inform our loved ones of what to expect from combat veterans/PTSD sufferers and how to best react to/counter that aspect of their loved one's behavior.

So for me Grossman is thumbs down. For loved ones of soldiers/cops/anyone with PTSD... Grossman is a thumbs up.

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I think of Grossman as translator for the sheepdog race. He takes what a sheepdog inately knows like Duty, honor, and service above self, and then explains it in big words that the sheep can understand

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Just some random musings from a Wyoming boy...

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Sheep can never choose to become Sheep Dogs.

Sheep never understand or appreciate what Sheep Dogs do for them.

Sheep never say Thank You For Your Service to Sheep Dogs.

Just saying...



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It has been said the Sheep don't really like the sheepdog because he has teeth...

teeth reminiscent and too much like the wolf ...

the wolf they like to pretend doesn't exist....

the sheep like to live oblivious...

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