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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:13 AM   #1
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As President Obama prepares for a battle in Congress over proposed gun control legislation, California and San Francisco are moving forward with even more far-reaching proposals.

The Golden State already has some of the toughest firearms laws in the nation, including a sophisticated background check database that has resulted in the confiscation of more than 10,000 guns since 2006.

San Francisco has been at the forefront of gun regulation, though its laws haven't always withstood legal scrutiny. Now, both at City Hall and in Sacramento, politicians want to regulate another aspect of guns: ammunition.

"Bullets are what make guns deadly," said Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, who has authored legislation that would require ammunition buyers to provide identification and undergo a background check, and force sellers to apply for a state license and report all transactions to California authorities.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:25 AM   #2
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Yup. So have a lot of other people. From what I've heard, reloading supplies are flying off the shelves just like semi auto rifles.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:03 AM   #3
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everything used for waging war is whats selling.

you can buy bird shot all day long, but no 00buck, even stuff like lever gun ammo is getting scarce.

they will keep making it, big ammo delivery in early feb on sportsman's guide.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:06 AM   #4
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"Bullets are what make guns deadly," said Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley.




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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:23 AM   #5
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I live here in SF (Go Niners). Just a heads up... the reality on the ground isn't how it might be portrayed in media to the rest of the country. Are there a ton of firearm laws already on the books here? Yes. Are any actually enforced? Well, not so much. Sporting Goods stores here in the City don't sell guns or ammo, true, but all you have to do is go a few feet outside of city limits and they do. Technically ammo can't even be shipped here, but it can less than 2 minutes away.

There's no doubt there are going to be even more unconstitutional laws coming soon (especially here), but don't believe the hype: People here can pass whatever laws they feel like, but it's mostly just so it looks like "they're doing the right, PC thing". Realistically, nothing is really enforced, ask SFPD, Sheriff's Office etc.... they don't care.

What sucks is that the ideas that come from the nitwits out here, end up becoming enforced policy in other parts of the state and country later... for that, all I can say is: Organize your own community to try and prevent any of this nonsense from coming to where you live.

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"Bullets are what make guns deadly," said Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley

A spark of intelligence from a California politician! Now I can die in peace.

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"Bullets are what make guns deadly," said Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley

A spark of intelligence from a California politician! Now I can die in peace.
I wouldn't jump the gun, pun intended. This is a 'what came first, the chicken or the egg' scenario. Without the bullet, the gun is not deadly, but without the gun, the bullet is not deadly.

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^Well, you could use the gun as a club and you could poke out an eye with the bullet...just say'n.

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I wouldn't jump the gun, pun intended. This is a 'what came first, the chicken or the egg' scenario. Without the bullet, the gun is not deadly, but without the gun, the bullet is not deadly.
actually that is not true... bullets are plenty dangerous with no gun.

thats why i have to lock them up.

I once saw a guy in college use the tip of a .223 round on the primer of another and was whacking it saying "could this make it go off"

and don't forget about zip guns, though they not legal and technically a gun, but anyone can make one that fires once.

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^Well, you could use the gun as a club and you could poke out an eye with the bullet...just say'n.
That is why I keep my bayonetts handy!

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I once saw a guy in college use the tip of a .223 round on the primer of another and was whacking it saying "could this make it go off"
A bullet without chamber pressure has very little penetration.

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A bullet without chamber pressure has very little penetration.
not to mention most would likely be injured with an improvised gun.

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California is lost, it has been for years. Unemployment is insane. The last "job" that I had ended last week when my employer didn't pay me, in fact, I hadn't been paid for over one month, I will have to take him to court to get anything of him. I have been selling some of my guns, I will be parting ways with my horses and I will be leaving California this year. I am hoping that I can do it in the next 4-6 months. I will be heading for the free state of NC.

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California is lost, it has been for years.

Yup. That state has really gone down the crapper for I don't know how long now. I was born there, grew up there, and it was my home of record when i was in the Air Force. When i left active duty, i went home resolved to never leave home again. Only, as the saying goes, once you leave home, you can never really go back.

There is a laundry list of things wrong with California. I wouldn't know where to start this list, or end it. At the end of the day, I met my wife who was going to a college in SoCal. She took me back to Utah to visit some family, as she was born and raised here. When her time in college was over, she asked if i wanted to move back to Utah. I didn't think twice, or hesitate for a second, and she got a "Hell yea!" as a response. These days, I am ashamed to say i am originally from California, and i would never go back to live there for anything in the world. In my mind, the ONLY thing good about California, is i have some family that live there, and I wish they too, would get the hell out of there.

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I see they want to ban those evil hollow point bullets. Evidently they don't understand firearms or physics in parts of CA.

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