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Old February 13th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #31
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AFA Obama, if the GOP runs Romney, hell get another term, and even if romney gets elected he is no different than Obama
Thats the best I've heard it said.

The obmasiah has an anti 2A agenda, but mitt the twit has done a 180° (or was it 540°?) since the gun laws he championed, and passed, in Mass. en mass?
If it looks like HS and it smells like HS...............
If the republicrat is one and a half angstroms better than the dempublican alternative, there is no real alternative?
smells like...........

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Old February 13th, 2012, 08:43 AM   #32
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Fast and Furious was an ill fated attempt to end run and enact further gun controls yes “UNDER THE RADAR” … Although the attack on religious freedom was not under the radar…. Be on watch…..

“NRA won’t get my money” Your decision and that’s fine but NRA doesn’t fly under the RADAR they get in your face (albeit not in NY and have made mistakes in the past) they stiff armed part of BOs attempt at a ‘discussion’ last year- iirc around the tragic Gabby Giffords aftermath political opportunism that was taking place….

IMHO I have no choice but to pay. The NRA is bigger than me and can help more folks than I can so I pay the ‘protection money’ doesn’t mean I like it but I decided a rifles worth for the team - “Team 2A USA”

Voting ? I sure as S*&# WILL – whether it’s ‘my guy’ or not….yes we will hear ‘hold your nose and vote” but I have no choice. Far too many Americans have flags on their stones for me to pass up that RESPONSIBILITY!

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Respectfully...I am not clear what you are saying here?

WHICH part of WHAT is 'HS'?

Surely You Don't Believe A Romney Administration Would Be MORE Anti-Gun Than The Obama Administration?

That...'does not compute'?



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With all due respect, google romney on gun control. He is no better than Obama and unlike Obama, HAS signed gun control legislation while he was governor of Mass.

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Old February 13th, 2012, 09:36 AM   #34
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With all due respect, google romney on gun control. He is no better than Obama and unlike Obama, HAS signed gun control legislation while he was governor of Mass.
Ok, I really don't dispute that....

The Title of this Thread is: "NRA Official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term..."

I doubt there is much Disagreement here on this thread and this forum regarding that specific statement!
(however, on this thread and the other 'companion' thread, a couple of guys SEEMED TO indicate that they thought that was NRA Propaganda designed to raise money for the NRA!)
Then the issue seemed to morph towards...but it's not enough to just defeat Obama if the next President is Romney, because he's almost as bad/just as bad/even worse than Obama!

And a second sub-text seemed to be...Above The Radar or Below The Radar ?
Some think because Obama has not made a major speech calling for nationwide gun control, that means he won't, or can't, or doesn't dare...
My position, actually for several years here, is that Obama absolutely intends to enact just as much gun control in the United States as he possibly can, but because he knows it always sets off a S**t-Storm...he intends to do what he has told the 'Brady' folks....do it UNDER THE RADAR! ---Just Like What Is Not Being Proposed In Illinois!
(Because it's JUST the Mayor of Chicago wanting All of Illinois to have basically the Same Laws as Chicago does! ---It's Not Obama Doing It! )
So...Back To Square One:
THAT Proposed Legislation in Illinois MUST Be Soundly Defeated!
If somebody here doesn't like the NRA...there are several other good national gun-owners groups to support, such as 'GOA', or donate directly to the Illinois Rifle Association.
If the Illinois bill can be pounded into the dirt, that will send a huge mesage!
And that would be, Regardless of who is President, Obama or Romney or Somebody Else, or the Next President after the Next Term...American Gun Owners and Second Amendment Advocates WILL Fight and WILL Win Against Gun-Grabs!
If 'WE' Gun-Owners Get Bogged Down Thinking 1. Obama going to get Re-Elected, We're Doomed! 2. Romney is as Bad or Worse Than Obama, We're Doomed! Then We Really Are Doomed!
We Are NOT Doomed, IF We Fight Back, On The Local, State AND National Level!
That's MY Point!


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Old February 13th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #35
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I'm a life member of the NRA and I send them money, when I can. Almost all of my contributions are directed to the ILA.
I can understand tapping into Obama hate in a pitch to the huddled to raise much needed funds, but having to buy into a main stream media (so liberal that it's like a fish asking "what water") pandering of Romney as "the alternative" is infuriating. Electing anyone other than the incumbent might make some sense from the standpoint of throwing a wrench in the machine, even if there's a high probability that the wrench will become a working part of the machine.
As to responsibility, a write in candidate is the only alternative. A November 6th at the range or loading bench would be a day better spent, IMO.

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It's only fair!! We want to ban Obama FROM a second term!!

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Old February 13th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #37
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I dont want an obama second term, but I cannot vote for Romney ever, hes repugnant. Obama will tell you hes a socialist if you listen, Romney denies he is then behaves as such and that doestn sit well with me. I can not see me casting a vote for romney under any circumstances

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I dont want an obama second term, but I cannot vote for Romney ever, hes repugnant. Obama will tell you hes a socialist if you listen, Romney denies he is then behaves as such and that doestn sit well with me. I can not see me casting a vote for romney under any circumstances
I don't see any real differences in the two.

I was a Ron Paul or Gary Johnson only buy but I have since soften my position to anybody but Obama and Romney. If it comes down to those two I will either vote third party or I will stay home if there isn't a local or state race that needs my vote.

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So do we want to start a divergent thread on how impossible a door-to-door confiscation of firearms happens to be?

Sheet - this country couldn't stop the flow of illegal booze in the Roaring 20s! That's a consumable. Guns are hardware. They don't just go away when you use them like a bottle of beer.

If I remember by revisionist History correctly the Kennedy clan was deep in the [illegal] importation of booze from The Old Country! From that I infer that politicians will be smuggling guns as soon as any law tried to go into effect!

And how about cocaine and heroin? The drug dealers will be funneling arms and ammo faster than drugs! After all, you can't push the border patrol back with bags of drugs, you CAN push them back with guns!

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So do we want to start a divergent thread on how impossible a door-to-door confiscation of firearms happens to be?

Sheet - this country couldn't stop the flow of illegal booze in the Roaring 20s! That's a consumable. Guns are hardware. They don't just go away when you use them like a bottle of beer.

If I remember by revisionist History correctly the Kennedy clan was deep in the [illegal] importation of booze from The Old Country! From that I infer that politicians will be smuggling guns as soon as any law tried to go into effect!

And how about cocaine and heroin? The drug dealers will be funneling arms and ammo faster than drugs! After all, you can't push the border patrol back with bags of drugs, you CAN push them back with guns!
I and many others know they can not take every gun from everyone. But I can't fire my rifle or pistol without someone knowing. Maybe once in a while in a remote area but not like now. Whom will we be able to trust if the worst were to happen? It happened in prohibition neighbor against neighbor, even families. Where will we replenish reloading supplies if we were able to shoot?

All that said, it's another finger to the problem. Regarding the Pres. election, a second term for Obama would be "lame duck" for him and many in the legislative branches. Lame ducks have little to fear regarding any further "re-elections'. A fresh face will be easier to do business with though the business might be messy. How bad can things get? What if Pelosi regains the House? Reid has no re-election to be concerned about and no love for the GOP.

Also remember; Romney isn't yet the nominee.

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Sheet - this country couldn't stop the flow of illegal booze in the Roaring 20s! T
And how about cocaine and heroin? The drug dealers will be funneling arms and ammo faster than drugs!
Usurping the 4th Amendment can't stop cocaine and heroin anymore than prohibition could get rid of booze, or getting rid of 2A could get rid of guns. In either case some scumbags can get really rich though. It might even be more of a boon to the burgeoning privatized prison system than drug prohibition.
Door to door confiscation would be unlikely. Just as with drugs, it could go on indefinitely and unwinably, with lengthily incarcerations of the unlucky minority that are caught.

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Not only is Romney not the nominee, polls now show Santorum leading Romney amoung Republicans. So, who really-is Santorum?

This thing is far from over. If there is an outcome better than 4 more years of Obama, work for it.

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It hasn't gotten much press since, but those who voted in the '76 election will probably recall that the national referendum called the Equal Rights Amendment was soundly defeated by the voters. This rebuke was apparently unacceptable to the feminists in Washington, who were able to force their agenda ahead anyway under the guise of it being a "UN mandate." The importance of this move to constitutionalists, is that it set the precedent of subordinating the US constitution to the whims of the United Nations, as if that body was able to make our domestic laws. Fast forward this maneuver to the present gun control debate and the stage has already been set for nullifying the 2nd Amenment because the constitution is no longer the supreme law of the land.

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[QUOTE=CAVman;802842]Respectfully...I am not clear what you are saying here?

WHICH part of WHAT is 'HS'?

Surely You Don't Believe A Romney Administration Would Be MORE Anti-Gun Than The Obama Administration?

That...'does not compute'?

All one has to do is look at Romney's record on Gun control. Makes Obama look like an NRA life member.

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Respectfully...I am not clear what you are saying here?

WHICH part of WHAT is 'HS'?

Surely You Don't Believe A Romney Administration Would Be MORE Anti-Gun Than The Obama Administration?

That...'does not compute'?

All one has to do is look at Romney's record on Gun control. Makes Obama look like an NRA life member.
I have to respectfully disagree on this one...
While Romney clearly will say or do anything to get elected...He lacks the core Anti-Gun beliefs that Obama carries. Romney is a 'panderer', Obama is a pure gun-banner!
If elected as a Republican to the Presidency of the United States, Romney would likely align himself with the NRA, not the 'Brady Bunch'...
Nevertheless, I do not disagree Romney lacks any strong beliefs in the Second Amendment.

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