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CharlieEcho · February 11th, 2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000m

I have had it with this COMMIE state, 1 more TAX, 2 nd ammendment encroachment, ETC. and IL. Will SEE MY DUST!!!!! 1000m

I feel your pain. The tax increase hasn't done what they wanted. It may have even backfired more than they expected. The Governor doesn't believe the registration fee will fly, he wants an assault rifle ban. The Illinois State Rifle Association has taken Chicago and the State to court and won some good cases, or halted others. ISRA is doing a good job. A great many of the down state representatives are fighting to keep our 2nd Amendment rights.

Other states have many more restrictions than Illnoise, and we are only one of fifty states. If the Mayors against guns ever find a wedge in the Second Amendment you can bet it will not be a one state issue. Anything that restricts firearm ownership AND brings in revenue will attract attention. You can bet your guns on it.

Then we have an election to worry about.

charlesPOSTLEwade · February 11th, 2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000m

I have had it with this COMMIE state, 1 more TAX, 2 nd ammendment encroachment, ETC. and IL. Will SEE MY DUST!!!!! 1000m

I have 2 Ejects coming 1 in 15 months and 1 from this State in a tad less than 5 years. The last is only a 23 minute drive to the River

MesaRifle · February 13th, 2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by anagram-sam

Exactly what they did in jolly olde England!!

Yup. And this brings to mind my continuing question:

Who will be out there standing in the streets in a lonely line, arms on "safe", and openly slung over our shoulders, as the line of APCs and armored-up officers marches towards you?

Who will stand up to this? Or do we shrug and drop them down onto the cold, wet pavement, to be scooped up by a front-end loader and dropped into a truck thence to be turned into slag?

Will it be you turning your good stuff in? Or Me? Nope. So Sorry, Federalés!!! They'll have to pick me off first. Probably with pepper spray or a Taser™, unless I might go so far as to un-sling that bad boy... But otherwise, if I'm pretty much alone out there, it'll just be me that they make a spectacle of. Then they'll tell everyone about my ideals, so easily found on that demonized and conspiratorial M14Forum board. With quotes from me! And you guys too, you'll see!

So then.... will you be quietly shaking your heads over on the sidewalk, and then going home to watch...

The Barama News Hour.. (*according to Barama and His Media Henchmen!)

...followed by "The Correct-Thinker's Daily Show", starring Oprah and Whoopie!

Won't it be fun? Eating your canned chicken, with some of that special spice the gov'mint guys bring around each month "to keep it all safe!" they intone... And they'll want to see your food prep-log to ensure that you have been using it in the right amounts... Very soothing, they promise!! A nice red color too!). Nice to nibble at Barmaspice-chip Cookies while I watch his daily "Notes on Your Nation" broadcast....

It's OK: I'm going to take my gov'meds again this morning... soon. Why, lookee here! That nice Fed guy's coming up my driveway right now to check up on me! He's so... do... .compassionate, isn't he? I wonder why he has those other two really healthy-lookin' guys with him, and why they also brought that really big blacked-out Suburban too. (Usually he arrives in a very slow Government Motors Volt that sometimes smokes when you turn it off, and then there's an occasional odd thermal electrical overload type glow from under the rear end...Hmmm... he always looks kinda worried when he sees that...)

They's knocking at my door now, rather insistently, but one of them has also gone around the back. Maybe uhhhmmm... to check on my friendly chickens, huh? But then, why does he also have his laser-sighted Glock out? Wonder if they just want some canned chicken for lunch?

Repeat: It's OK... it's OK....it's ok i it's oooohhhkkkaaayyy

GARRARD · March 1st, 2012, 07:33 AM

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House panel approves handgun registration, ammo tax bills
From staff and wire reports

SPRINGFIELD -- Legislation that would require handguns to be registered and place a tax on ammunition was approved by an Illinois House committee Wednesday, despite opposition from gun-rights advocates.

Both bills -- touted as tools for improving the state's response to gun violence--passed 7-4 and now go to the House floor. The bills passed along party lines, with Democrats voting in favor and Republicans voting aginst. The metro-east's only legislator on the committee is Rep. Eddie Lee Jackson, D-East St. Louis.

The registration bill would impose a $20 fee for each handgun a person owns. The registration certificates, which owners would have to carry when in possession of a weapon, would expire every five years. Lost or stolen handguns would have to be reported to police.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel recently called for a mandatory gun registration with a $65 fee. He and his allies have agreed to scale back the fee. Even at the lower level, Emanuel's Chief of Staff Felicia Davis said, a fee would pay for improving a background-checking system that has failed to process 100,000 mental health records.

Todd Vandermyde, lobbyist for the National Rifle Association, argued against the registration measure, saying it would increase costs for law-abiding citizens without affecting people who have guns illegally.

Rep. Will Davis, D-Homewood, responded that his legislation would help police track guns that were legally purchased but later sold and used in a crime. It would not prevent anyone with a valid Firearm Owners Identification Card from owning guns, Davis said, but it would keep owners accountable if they illegally sell a gun or if a gun registered under their name is used in a crime.

Vandermyde also argued against a new tax on ammunition. He said it would interfere with the 2nd Amendment right to own firearms.

The sponsor disagreed, however. Rep. Kelly Cassidy, D-Chicago, said there's nothing unconstitutional about the 2 percent tax, which would generate money for trauma centers in high-crime areas.

Legislative aides estimate the tax would generate between $869,000 and $1.2 million a year.

The bills are HB5831 and HB5167.

Read more here: http://www.bnd.com/2012/03/01/208017...#storylink=cpy

CharlieEcho · March 1st, 2012, 08:00 AM

The bills have passed through committee. They now have to go through the process. House, Senate and Governor.

IF, these bills do pass. It may be very close whether they pass or fail. It will be a weathervane for the rest of the country. Give an inch lose a mile. The Illinois State Rifle Association will fight them all the way.

That said; Tuesday March 7th is Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day (IGOLD) in the capitol. It's a time for gun owners to show some loyalty and at the same time visit your lawmakers offices. It's pretty well organized and not "in your face" protest for gun owners rights. I encourage all Illinois gun owners to attend.

LausDeo · March 1st, 2012, 09:58 AM

Good luck to those of you "Illannoying" these krazy kommies. I'm just I'm moving to a state where I will never, ever have to worry about this. If it passes on the national level, you can be sure Montana will have none of it

(among other states with half a brain, of course).