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January 20th, 2012, 11:50 AM
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#1 | | Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa
Posts: 3,290
| Uncle Ted Rants about Fast and Furious
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NUGENT: Fast and Furious stinks
Gun-smuggling scheme another reason to distrust government
By Ted Nugent
The Washington Times
Thursday, January 19, 2012
The United States of America has turned into bizarro land. Think of this: Our very own Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), under the direct guidance of the attorney general of the United States - America’s top cop, mind you - not only allowed, but encouraged American gun dealers to sell about 2,000 guns to known punks involved in the drug trade in order to trace the guns to Mexican drug cartels. If you think that’s unbelievably nuts, get a load of this: The suspected goons who bought the guns were not even placed under law enforcement surveillance.
This is analogous to the Drug Enforcement Administration knowingly allowing international dope pushers to sell heroin on American streets without placing the dope dealers under surveillance in hopes that somehow, some way, the dope pushers would enable the DEA to trace the heroin back to some dirty, cave-dwelling Afghan opium poppy farmer so we could then poison the farmer’s poppy fields. Wait a minute, let’s not give this crackpot administration any more loony ideas.
In all of its bureaucratic buffoonery, the ATF lost control of the weapons. Of course it did, as there were no electronic tracing components on the guns. Our less-than-esteemed attorney general, Eric H. Holder Jr., to whom the ATF reports, claimed not to know a thing about this brain-dead operation.
What kind of inebriated idiot would hatch an evil scheme such as this and then believe that, somehow, the guns could be traced to Mexican drug cartels without an electronic tracing component? This isn’t some low-ranking bureaucratic village idiot but a high-ranking government bureaucratic idiot who is paid by U.S. taxpayers.
It’s not as if the drug cartels needed any more guns. An estimated 35,000 Mexicans have been slaughtered in recent years in drug-related violence. What could an additional 2,000 guns provide the already heavily armed drug cartels, which get all the fully automatic machine guns they could possibly want from their own military and Central American gunrunners? Are you kidding me?
We should be given the names of the bureaucratic idiots at ATF who hatched this criminal idea and the bureaucratic punks who authorized it. They shouldn’t just be fired. They should be prosecuted and put in a cage with other gunrunning thugs. That’s what this was: a U.S. government-sanctioned gun-smuggling scheme.
Meanwhile, because the bureaucratic punks in Washington who hatched and approved this terminally brain-dead gunrunning idea have not been charged with a crime, all across America, law-abiding citizens must comply with onerous gun restrictions that make them victims. Great. Punish the good guys. That seems to be standard operating procedure in Barack Obama’s and Eric Holder’s America.
More guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens ultimately ensures more dead bad guys - not more guns in the hands of violent dope dealers. I want an attorney general who declares open season on the recidivistic, violent punks who victimize law-abiding Americans.
Americans addicted to common sense have always had a healthy disdain for government bureaucrats addicted to power. Our instinctual distrust for government is further fueled by Mr. Holder’s ATF Operation Fast and Furious. At its core it was stupid, sinister, evil and criminal.
The only thing fast and furious that ought to happen is a full-on murder investigation by the FBI of the government goons who hatched, authorized and now are covering up this brain-dead, criminal scheme, which ended up costing the life of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
Fast and Furious stinks. It smells just like Watergate did, only worse.
| http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...urious-stinks/
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January 20th, 2012, 12:18 PM
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#2 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Always nice to hear Ted's thoughts.
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January 20th, 2012, 12:42 PM
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#3 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas
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I hope Ted abolishes the ATF.
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January 20th, 2012, 01:04 PM
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#4 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WALKER CO. AL.
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Did he address the fact that it was funded with 52+ Million in "stimulus" funds?
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January 20th, 2012, 02:09 PM
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#5 | | Grunt
Join Date: May 2011 Location: Stevi, Montana
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Uncle Ted 2012! Much better than the bunch of used car salesmen RINOS we havevto choose from now.
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January 20th, 2012, 02:20 PM
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#6 | | Banned Camp
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: State of Jefferson
Posts: 971
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2nd Amendment czar and rehabilitator.
Ted can totally destroy others in a 2nd amendment debate.
That's good enough for me
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January 20th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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#7 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: wisconsin
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I'd vote for him.
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January 20th, 2012, 02:22 PM
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#8 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lakewood, WA
Posts: 213
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This administration is pathetic.
And think about it... ATF - Alcohol, Tobaco, Firearms. Why should the Fed be into any of those items? Just my humble opinion. Tobacco and Alcohol were cash equivalents in colonial times. Get over it. And Firearms...well... do we get to vote on any of this?
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January 20th, 2012, 02:22 PM
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#9 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington
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Why isn't this whole thing blown wide open by every media outlet worldwide?!? This is far worse than the Watergate scandal ever thought of being, and that cost Nixon his job. That was just some wiretapping. As far as I know, nobody died, especially not American agents. Fast and Furious has cost uncounted lives across the border, and at least one death of a border agent. I am sickened to see how this has been largely ignored, or swept under the rug by the current "administration." Heads should be rolling by now, but instead the population at large is too busy watching American Idol to notice their freedoms being taken from them as the socialists in charge "fundamentally transform" the United States of America. When will we finally wake up?
Gun control is never about guns. It is always about control.
Last edited by Spray n pray; January 20th, 2012 at 06:30 PM.
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January 20th, 2012, 02:57 PM
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#10 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 1,862
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Originally Posted by Spray n pray  Why isn't this whole thing blown wide open by every media outlet worldwide?!? | Because more important things are going on, like a deranged ex making accusations, money legally invested in the Cayman Islands, the aftermath of the death of a child, or a bunch of newsletters.
I heard some liberal hack on Fox a few days ago repeating the same old line "it's not the results, but our intentions that count"
Bring this up with any Obama bot and you'll get the same thing up until the race card gets pulled. The only way to fix this is remove Obama and get someone with testicular fortitude to press criminal charges on those involved.
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January 20th, 2012, 05:20 PM
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#11 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: southcarolina
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I don't want anybody to get in a heated augment with someone who has done more than watch the news. So dig a little with google or whatever - Project Gunrunner and Operation Wide Receiver.
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January 20th, 2012, 06:07 PM
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#12 | | Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Nobody has been charged and we now have US government employees evoking the 5th amendment. It gets more damning and pathetic each day. Most all of these people took an oath to uphold the Constitution yet it appears they used it as a bird cage liner.
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January 20th, 2012, 06:21 PM
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#13 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida
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Too bad there's not a big reset button.
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January 20th, 2012, 06:40 PM
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#14 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Washington
Posts: 196
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Originally Posted by Swamp Rat Bring this up with any Obama bot and you'll get the same thing up until the race card gets pulled. The only way to fix this is remove Obama and get someone with testicular fortitude to press criminal charges on those involved. |
That's the problem. The person who is supposed to bring said criminal charges in matters like this is the so-called "top cop" Eric Holder. Unfortunately he would have to press charges on himself, so don't hold your breath. He certainly isn't going to bite the hand that feeds him either. Part of me thinks that he is just waiting to find someone who will "take one for the team," but so far unsuccessfully.
Best of luck to Grassley and Issa, who at least make the appearance of holding his feet to the fire.
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January 20th, 2012, 06:48 PM
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#15 | | Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa
Posts: 3,290
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Originally Posted by Spray n pray That's the problem. The person who is supposed to bring said criminal charges in matters like this is the so-called "top cop" Eric Holder. Unfortunately he would have to press charges on himself, so don't hold your breath. He certainly isn't going to bite the hand that feeds him either. Part of me thinks that he is just waiting to find someone who will "take one for the team," but so far unsuccessfully.
Best of luck to Grassley and Issa, who at least make the appearance of holding his feet to the fire. | That's pretty telling about this administration. Oliver North fell on his sword over the Iran Contra mess because Reagan was worth it. No one in this POS administration could give a damn less if the people at the top go down.
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