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November 19th, 2011, 09:03 PM
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#1 | | Squad Leader
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 245
| USA Today Poll!
TAKES 10 SECONDS .... Vote
I guess USA Today was not happy with the poll results the first time so USA today is running another one....vote now
Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is one of his major issues. He does not believe the 2nd Amendment gives individuals the right to bear arms. This takes literally 2 clicks to complete. Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today. It will only take a few seconds of your time. Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know. Hopefully these results will be published later this month. This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners, with the Supreme Court's accepting the District of Columbia case against the right for individuals to bear arms. http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickqu.../popup5895.htm
What I really noticed was that 97% of the voters got it right.
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November 19th, 2011, 10:09 PM
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#2 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: shiloh,il
Posts: 1,967
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Just like Politicians when they do not get there desired respone or way they will try another route
House Voted Yes 6 times here
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November 20th, 2011, 07:52 AM
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#3 | | Grunt
Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Salt Lake
Posts: 94
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"Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?"
Very poorly worded poll question. Rights don't come from documents, amendments, laws, etc.
Should read: "Does the Second Amendment GUARANTEE individuals the right to bear arms? That being said, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that is what they meant to say on the poll question and that is what the responders meant to endorse.
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November 20th, 2011, 08:10 AM
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#4 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North Atlanta
Posts: 212
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Originally Posted by NukMed  "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?"
Very poorly worded poll question. Rights don't come from documents, amendments, laws, etc.
Should read: "Does the Second Amendment GUARANTEE individuals the right to bear arms? That being said, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that is what they meant to say on the poll question and that is what the responders meant to endorse. |
Agreed. Self-defense is a natural right = Natural Law
2nd Amendment simply acknowledges this within the construct of limiting FedGovs authority (Not that the Bill of Rights constrains the FedGov in any meaningful way)
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November 20th, 2011, 10:57 AM
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#5 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kentucky
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Hasn't this poll been running for nearly 10 years now? Seems like once a year, someone "finds" it and passes it around.
Heck, well over a 100,000 of these votes have to be mine, as often as I see this pass through my email.
Even if 100% vote yes, USAToday (and other libertards) will spin it to look like the vast majority agree with them.
Oh well.
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November 20th, 2011, 11:37 AM
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#6 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CA
Posts: 333
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Originally Posted by Lil'guns Hasn't this poll been running for nearly 10 years now? Seems like once a year, someone "finds" it and passes it around. | Well, if you look at the full link, it would seem fair to guess that it's been there at least since 2007.
Tim
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November 20th, 2011, 11:40 AM
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#7 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland
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Running since 2007, not quite 10 years, but long enough to ignore the message.
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November 20th, 2011, 01:30 PM
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#8 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas
Posts: 372
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Originally Posted by NukMed "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?"
Very poorly worded poll question. Rights don't come from documents, amendments, laws, etc.
Should read: "Does the Second Amendment GUARANTEE individuals the right to bear arms? That being said, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that is what they meant to say on the poll question and that is what the responders meant to endorse. | Nevertheless, this is exactly how the second ammendment is understood. Too many people see 'rights' as being granted by a government. The idea that rights already exist and are simply acknowledged by the Constitution, involves too many steps of logic.
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November 20th, 2011, 02:55 PM
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#9 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coastal NC
Posts: 1,862
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Originally Posted by oldflyboy Nevertheless, this is exactly how the second ammendment is understood. Too many people see 'rights' as being granted by a government. The idea that rights already exist and are simply acknowledged by the Constitution, involves too many steps of logic. | You should try explaining this to libs.
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November 20th, 2011, 03:24 PM
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#10 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: The hand of YHWH
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Lil'guns; Hasn't this poll been running for nearly 10 years now? Seems like once a year, someone "finds" it and passes it around.
Heck, well over a 100,000 of these votes have to be mine, as often as I see this pass through my email.
Even if 100% vote yes, USAToday (and other libertards) will spin it to look like the vast majority agree with them.
Oh well.
Lil'guns,
I'll go one step further, it was unnecessary from the beginning, we don't care what they think, . . . WE HAVE THE GUNS!
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November 20th, 2011, 04:21 PM
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#11 | | Snappin In
Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hubbard, OH
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we may be the majority, but sadly, the ruling 2% get the final say.
And thats what is wrong with this country, WE THE PEOPLE! BY THE PEOPLE! them idiots in Washington DC just don't get it..... I think the time is coming when the Amercian PEOPLE will give them and education!
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