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August 15th, 2009, 09:22 AM
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#1 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere out there
Posts: 698
| PPSh-41 or Thompson ?
Got $$ to spend on one of 'em.
Each comes with a drum mag.
Thanks.
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August 15th, 2009, 09:38 AM
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#2 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 464
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id get the Thompson mostly because it is an american gun. the PPSH is a neat gun also though.
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August 15th, 2009, 09:46 AM
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#3 | | Lifer
Join Date: Nov 1978 Location: Kihei, Hawaii
Posts: 6,347
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Tommy gunz! |
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August 15th, 2009, 12:26 PM
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#4 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere out there
Posts: 698
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So Tommie gun,
not Commie gun ? |
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August 18th, 2009, 08:32 AM
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#5 | | "Staff Alumni"
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Western Slope, Colorado
Posts: 2,653
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Its like comparing apples to watermelons  The ppsh-41 shoots the 7.62x25 round holds 76 rounds in the drum and is still smaller than the 50 round Thomson drum and weighs a heck of a lot less than a 50 round Thompson drum. I'd take the watermelon over the apple any day. I jsut love those .45s |
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August 19th, 2009, 11:32 PM
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#6 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Denver, CO, USA
Posts: 485
| Through, Small Hole, Through... Crater
I'd go with the Thompson. A lot of our guys in Korea survived a riddling with the 'Burp' gun. You don't hear too many stories about people surviving a sonata as played upon a 'Chicago Piano.'
I still think that the guys in Iraq--not Afghanistan--are using the wrong weapon. They don't want an M4.
They want an M3.
Best!
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August 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM
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#7 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago, Ill
Posts: 10,217
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I have two model 21s and a model 28, love them all. Sargent Saunders would be proud if you picked the Thompson.  BTW, "Tommygun" was coined by the Brits in WWII, some of the lend lease guns were even stamped that way.
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August 20th, 2009, 03:46 PM
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#8 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TN
Posts: 506
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My first question would be, are we talking about the full auto versions, or the semi auto replicas? Because if it is the full auto version, then the Thompson wins, hands down.
But the semi-auto versions of both guns have some issues to be aware of. The original InterOrdnance SR-41 copy of the PPSh41 was notorious for being unreliable, although a lot of the newer hammer-fired versions supposedly have addressed the problems of the early versions. Mine had the IO receiver with the "anteater" barrel extension.
The Thompson, on the other hand, STILL has a reputation as built by Kahr Arms as being spotty at best on reliability. I built one of the earlier semi-autos into an SBR a while back, and it took some effort to get it to run consistently. Neat looking guns, and fun to shoot. They definitely get stares at the range, but you should be aware of what you are getting up front.
Here's what my SBR'd Thompson came out looking like...
If you get one of these, try to find one of the older "West Hurley" Thompsons instead of the new Kahr Arms versions. Also, there is a guy out in California who makes a LOT of really neat parts to fix these up (if he's still in business) and I can get you his contact info if you go that way.
They are both neat guns, but in the semi-auto versions, they both may need some work. But in the end, you wind up with a really cool gun so sometimes a little extra effort is worth it.
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August 21st, 2009, 05:10 AM
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#9 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida
Posts: 43
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Assuming you are referring to full auto, get the Thompson. The gun itself doesn't wear out and spare parts are readily available. However, it might help if we knew more particulars such as who made the TSMG, is the PPSH original or a reweld, is the TSMG a reweld. TSMG's last "forever"; PPSH's don't.
On the downside, the TSMG is heavy and due to the angle of the stock, they tend to rise in recoil, but shoot it enough and you will get good enough with it to hold it steady.
Note: The only part ever broken in my M1A1 was an extractor. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1
Last edited by WholeBunches; August 21st, 2009 at 05:22 AM.
Reason: Added link to PPSH ariticle
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August 21st, 2009, 04:25 PM
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#10 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SW Florida
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August 21st, 2009, 06:58 PM
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#11 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The United Soviet Peoples Republic of New Jersey
Posts: 552
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how can one acquire full automatic weapons, i though they were illegal, and "banned", or is my Jersey brainwashing completely wrong?
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August 23rd, 2009, 04:49 AM
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#12 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere out there
Posts: 698
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STEVE 12
That's quite a collection you have there! |
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August 23rd, 2009, 06:02 AM
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#13 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SW Florida
Posts: 213
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Here's a couple more. |
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August 23rd, 2009, 06:58 AM
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#14 | | Grunt
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Indiana
Posts: 111
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I'd have to say that if you are looking for an investment piece, get the PPsH41. Not many of them around, whereas there's a boatload of TSMG's.
As a shooter, I still vote PPsH41.
Parts Kits are around and cheap, ammo is cheap, mags and drums are cheap, and the damn thing runs like a top.
Only real downside is that it sucks to load the PPsH41 mags. And the drums kind of suck to load too. |
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August 23rd, 2009, 07:19 AM
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#15 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere out there
Posts: 698
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DANG!!
I want that BAR!! |
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