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Old August 15th, 2009, 09:22 AM   #1
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PPSh-41 or Thompson ?

Got $$ to spend on one of 'em.
Each comes with a drum mag.
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Old August 15th, 2009, 09:38 AM   #2
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id get the Thompson mostly because it is an american gun. the PPSH is a neat gun also though.

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Old August 15th, 2009, 09:46 AM   #3
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Old August 15th, 2009, 12:26 PM   #4
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So Tommie gun,
not Commie gun ?


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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:32 AM   #5
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Its like comparing apples to watermelons The ppsh-41 shoots the 7.62x25 round holds 76 rounds in the drum and is still smaller than the 50 round Thomson drum and weighs a heck of a lot less than a 50 round Thompson drum. I'd take the watermelon over the apple any day. I jsut love those .45s

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Old August 19th, 2009, 11:32 PM   #6
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I'd go with the Thompson. A lot of our guys in Korea survived a riddling with the 'Burp' gun. You don't hear too many stories about people surviving a sonata as played upon a 'Chicago Piano.'

I still think that the guys in Iraq--not Afghanistan--are using the wrong weapon. They don't want an M4.

They want an M3.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:29 AM   #7
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I have two model 21s and a model 28, love them all. Sargent Saunders would be proud if you picked the Thompson. BTW, "Tommygun" was coined by the Brits in WWII, some of the lend lease guns were even stamped that way.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:46 PM   #8
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My first question would be, are we talking about the full auto versions, or the semi auto replicas? Because if it is the full auto version, then the Thompson wins, hands down.

But the semi-auto versions of both guns have some issues to be aware of. The original InterOrdnance SR-41 copy of the PPSh41 was notorious for being unreliable, although a lot of the newer hammer-fired versions supposedly have addressed the problems of the early versions. Mine had the IO receiver with the "anteater" barrel extension.



The Thompson, on the other hand, STILL has a reputation as built by Kahr Arms as being spotty at best on reliability. I built one of the earlier semi-autos into an SBR a while back, and it took some effort to get it to run consistently. Neat looking guns, and fun to shoot. They definitely get stares at the range, but you should be aware of what you are getting up front.

Here's what my SBR'd Thompson came out looking like...





If you get one of these, try to find one of the older "West Hurley" Thompsons instead of the new Kahr Arms versions. Also, there is a guy out in California who makes a LOT of really neat parts to fix these up (if he's still in business) and I can get you his contact info if you go that way.

They are both neat guns, but in the semi-auto versions, they both may need some work. But in the end, you wind up with a really cool gun so sometimes a little extra effort is worth it.

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Old August 21st, 2009, 05:10 AM   #9
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Assuming you are referring to full auto, get the Thompson. The gun itself doesn't wear out and spare parts are readily available. However, it might help if we knew more particulars such as who made the TSMG, is the PPSH original or a reweld, is the TSMG a reweld. TSMG's last "forever"; PPSH's don't.

On the downside, the TSMG is heavy and due to the angle of the stock, they tend to rise in recoil, but shoot it enough and you will get good enough with it to hold it steady.

Note: The only part ever broken in my M1A1 was an extractor.

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Old August 21st, 2009, 04:25 PM   #10
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If you are talking full auto, go with the Thompson. They are heavy as is the ammo, but built to last a life time. If not the Thompson, I would look at the Uzi, or MP5.



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how can one acquire full automatic weapons, i though they were illegal, and "banned", or is my Jersey brainwashing completely wrong?

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Old August 23rd, 2009, 04:49 AM   #12
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That's quite a collection you have there!

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Old August 23rd, 2009, 06:58 AM   #14
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I'd have to say that if you are looking for an investment piece, get the PPsH41. Not many of them around, whereas there's a boatload of TSMG's.

As a shooter, I still vote PPsH41.
Parts Kits are around and cheap, ammo is cheap, mags and drums are cheap, and the damn thing runs like a top.

Only real downside is that it sucks to load the PPsH41 mags. And the drums kind of suck to load too.


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DANG!!
I want that BAR!!

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