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Old October 28th, 2007, 01:29 PM   #1
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Is the MINI-14 really that bad?

The New MINI-14 with Synthetic Stock, 16" barrel stainless with birdcage flash suppressor and front sight.
- are they that bad of a rifle?
- Bad MOI/MOA?
Anybody with experience can you tell me what you think.

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Old October 28th, 2007, 03:15 PM   #2
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I guess it depends what you plan to do with it that defines whether it is good or bad.
The stock does have a short Length of pull, and it is also chambered for .223 Rem.
It is a fine round as a varmint cartridge in that gun, and it works great with the M16 series platform, but remember it is chambered for commercial .223, not military 5.56-MM.

The New York City Police, was deploying them for many years and still does to some extent. Now, however the Mini14 has taken side stage to the M4 Carbine.
Same cartridge, different weapon.

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Old October 28th, 2007, 03:19 PM   #3
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In a word, no. Some here will have different experiences, but I've owned a couple of Mini 14's and spent some time behind an AC556, so here's my opinion:

1) Great design that was never fully developed by Ruger.

2) Not as accurate as an AR-15.

3) Plenty accurate for 90 percent of what you would use it for.

4) Goes bang whenever you pull the trigger.

5) Lots of iffy aftermarket mags floating around. Buyer beware.
This is what gives credence to the "unreliable" stories.

6) Mods that don't involve bolting it on or dropping it in are pricey.

Others can chime in now.

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Old October 28th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #4
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I'd have to second the after market magazine issues. Seen problems at Appleseeds with them from "bad" magazines.

Mine is plenty accurate for what it's intended for.

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Old October 28th, 2007, 03:48 PM   #5
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+1, Voodoo! Reliable, not as accurate as ARs, stay with factory mags, you can get 20 rounders, just need to pay premium price or know someone in law enforcement. Great for what they are made for. Just my .02

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Old October 28th, 2007, 05:05 PM   #6
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why can't i use green tip ammo? Sorry for the ignorance.

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Old October 29th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #7
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an LEO shop has both. i was told that both sizes are now available but only in stainless steal and synt stock

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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:44 AM   #8
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I don't know about the newer ones. Mine is about 20 years old, I bought it new then. It will shoot about 1 1/2" moa at 100 yards. I killed a lot of groundhogs and a few deer out to 200 yards with it. Never jammed or another problems with it. I have 2 factory 5 round mags and an aftermarket 30 round plastic mag.

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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:55 AM   #9
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Whenever I ran a Tactical Rifle 40hr school, we would usually have 1 or 2 students shooting a Mini-14. No problems with them reliability-wise, but they never scored as high as the AR-based platforms during accuracy drills.

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Old October 29th, 2007, 09:20 AM   #10
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IMO, 95% of the complaints you hear about the Mini is from people who thought they could get an AR for $500 and then blame the gun when it doesn't meet their expectations. The Mini is not an AR, but for reasonable distance work it's great. It's an absolute blast for plinking. Just buy it with the right expectations. Oh, and mine also says it's chambered for .223 or 5.56. I've got an early 90's Ranch Rifle that I never shoot anymore, yet I can't bring myself to sell it!

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Old October 29th, 2007, 11:23 AM   #11
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I like my ranch rifle. Minute-of-barn-door accurate, but sure is a BIG blast to shoot (particularly with 5.56) !

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Old November 1st, 2007, 02:22 PM   #12
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The New MINI-14 with Synthetic Stock, 16" barrel stainless with birdcage flash suppressor and front sight.
- are they that bad of a rifle?
- Bad MOI/MOA?
Anybody with experience can you tell me what you think.
I have not seen this particular model. I had a new 580 series that shot two inch groups at 100 yards. The only reason its sold is because the M14 bug bit hard again, for the record my Colt 6920 went too...

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Old November 1st, 2007, 08:56 PM   #13
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You should be able to use green tip or ss109/m855 in a mini 14.last i heard they had a 1/10 twist where civilian HBARs have a 1/9 twist and thell reliably shoot much heavier/longer bullets than the ss109 so theres no reason you shouldnt be able to use/stabilize 62gr fmjscbt or possibly even 68-69gr match though with the accuracy ive experienced I dont know why one would waste thier money on M855 or match ammo
for an Mini 14.Any servicable m193 type ball is more accurate than any Mini anyways IMHO.

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Old November 4th, 2007, 07:08 AM   #14
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Part of the problem is just what was stated in the preceding post. Anyone who buys an AR is immediately advised to use match ammo for "best accuracy". That may be 3 MOA in some of the entry-level weapons. In the Mini-14, you're told to "use anything".

Our Mini-14 Rifles will turn in 1-1 2/" groups at 100 yds. They both like 55 gr. ammo, but the Stainless All-Weather will fire 62 gr. ammo into 1" with no problem. That's good enough for us, so we don't buy Match ammo for the guns. However, I will try some in the near future, just to see what it will do.

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Old November 4th, 2007, 10:20 PM   #15
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i have been waffeling between just getting one or going for a SIG 556. i like the grand style action and the "look" of a tradition rifle. ahhhhhhhhhhhh so many guns so little money.

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