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Old April 8th, 2017, 10:35 AM   #1
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Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine Questions

Two questions:

1) Have you noticed that the rear sight graduations are wrong? If it is dead on at 100 meters on the 100 meter setting, then it is low at 200 meters on the 200 meter setting. For 200 meters the 300 meter setting matches POI/POA.

2) The rear sight leaf comes up during recoil. Every shot fired on the 300 meter setting moves the sight to the 400 meter setting. What's the solution to this? A new sight leaf? I have gunsmithing services I can use if it involves anything too serious.

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Old April 8th, 2017, 12:02 PM   #2
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they prob used the same sight for the rifle and carbine

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Old April 8th, 2017, 03:27 PM   #3
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They had what they called the M91/59 Carbine, which were M91/30's rifles that were converted to Model 38 carbine specs. Barrels were shorten. Alot of the later built M91/59 Carbines had the M44 carbine stocks.

The Czech's also made a version that is referred to as a M91/38 which were the older M91's (not 91/30) with the hex receivers.

The original Model 38 Carbine has "true" carbine sights that are graduated from 100-1000 meters. Unlike the M91/59 Carbine, which has filed down M91/30 rear sights.

You may have one of the M91/59 Carbines, instead of the Model 38 Carbine. The original M1938 carbine will have barrel date markings from 1938 to 1944.

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Mine is definitely an actual M38 with a 1944 production date.

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Old April 8th, 2017, 07:28 PM   #5
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Russians used two different 7.62X54R rounds. One was a light ball (148gr) and the other was a heavy ball (174gr). Which round are you shooting?

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I am shooting 150 gr. Prvi Partisan soft points.

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I am shooting 150 gr. Prvi Partisan soft points.
Try shooting either of the original Russian rounds to see if it shoots point of aim at 200 meters. I believe the 174 gr heavy ball shoots higher.

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