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Old March 22nd, 2017, 08:12 PM   #1
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Yugo M48 Mauser

About 15 years ago, my father bought a Yugo M48 Mauser. He called me and asked if I wanted to come over that weekend to see his latest find, it needs to be seriously cleaned but looks brand new. I was busy that weekend and never made it. I wish I did.

He died early that Monday morning.

Of course, I went over to my parents house. There was a note he wrote stuck in the trigger guard that said, "Check headspace before firing. Be safe.".

Over time, I took that rifle and the rest of his collection home, but I never touched that rifle, it sat in the safe still covered in cosmoline with his note in the trigger guard until this past January. I decided to take it out, clean it up and shoot the damn thing. I knew absolutely nothing of M48's, the internet saved my bacon. I wasn't even sure what caliber it was. I learned that it looked brand new because it probably was.

The reason for this post is; almost everything I read said there should be import marks on the barrel or somewhere. This rifle has none, and I took it apart to the last screw to scrub off all that blasted cosmo. The inside of the bolt was extremely packed.

I've stocked up on 8mm ammo, stripper clips and such, should I have the headspace checked like he suggested ?

How did my Dad get a foreign rifle with no import marks ? Does it hurt/help it's value, even though I'll never sell it ?

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 08:45 PM   #2
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Some of the import marks are very faint and hard to find.

Value is in the eye of the buyer, but I doubt you're ever going to sell that rifle...

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 09:33 PM   #3
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I wouldn't worry about the headspace, its a military rifle and often they are a tad long. Is it stamped M48? I have seen a lot of K98 Yugo rebuilds labeled as M48 when in fact they are not. M48 actions are slightly shorter than a K98. The one I owned some time ago had function issues so I sold it. A 98 Mauser that is fussy aint worth having.

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I wouldn't worry about the headspace, its a military rifle and often they are a tad long. Is it stamped M48? I have seen a lot of K98 Yugo rebuilds labeled as M48 when in fact they are not. M48 actions are slightly shorter than a K98. The one I owned some time ago had function issues so I sold it. A 98 Mauser that is fussy aint worth having.
Yep, on the top of the receiver under the crest is M48.

I've worked the action quite a lot, the bolt is smooth (after taking it apart and scrubbing the bejesus out of everything), I've loaded some live rounds just to see if it'll seat, it does.

On the barrel between the front sight and barrel band, all that is stamped is "M48 Yugo 8mm", which I assume is odd, they wouldn't put "Yugo" on a weapon, much like we wouldn't put "Yank" on an U.S. rifle...

Since my M1a stock is being BLO'd, maybe I'll take the Yugo to the range this weekend.

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 10:23 PM   #5
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I would check headspace just because he said to. It should be fine though.

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Old March 23rd, 2017, 05:44 AM   #6
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I've got a 48A, and I don't see any import marks. There is some Cyrillic script on the left, serial # on right, crest above M48A on top, and HPV on the left side, which is Zastava arsenal. I also find the "Yugo" odd, on yours.

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Old March 23rd, 2017, 06:01 AM   #7
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All you need is a Field Gauge. They don't run ridiculously expensive, so for ~$30, you'll have peace of mind that the headspace is not way out of spec.

That being said, I have several 8mm Mauser rifles, and have never checked the headspace. I do though have a 30-06 Field Gauge which I use on all my M1/1903/1917 rifles when I first get them.

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I would also recommend checking the headspace, because you never know. Years ago (late '80s) an LGS had Czech VZ-24s for a decent price, the ones on the shelf left a lot to be desired... the clerk, went into the back, and brought one out, that they had just got in... from an importer with the initials... C.I.A. It was beautiful, strong bluing on all of the metal, receivers crest sharp, excellent wood... you could say at 95% of "as new"... bolt didn't match, but no biggie back then, new bolts were cheap and plentiful. Bore sharp and "shiny"!

I took it home, and attempted to get some of the cosmolene out of the bore, with some degreaser, and a patch, to check the "headspace". As I sprayed the degreaser into the barrel, I was met with a "flood of degreaser" coming out of the stock and handguard. I fashioned a spanner to remove the lower band, and removed the handguard... there staring me in the face was a 14mm hole bored into the chamber, from above!!!

Due to the condition of the receiver, I kept it, but not before I "Bent a few ears", on liability issues. After that the LGS started issuing disclaimers with all surplus weapons, and a signed affidavit from the purchaser that they would have the weapon checked by a gunsmith prior to firing.

I never did receive a response from the "importer", and as far as I am concerned, I haven't, and will not do any business with them any more.
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Smile import marks

Howdy,

Back in the "Good Old Days", firearms did not have to be import marked.

Working for a decade in an auction house/gun shop we saw lots of military weapons come through unmarked.

My mind just went blank, I don't remember if the Gun Control Act of 1968 started the ball rolling.

Collectors in general will pay more for a gun without importer's marks.
One with the marks is no longer in "original/as issued" condition.

When a military gun came in, be it a handgun or rifle, we went over it with a fine tooth comb looking for marks.

Some importers went to great lengths to make their name, city and state as obscure as possible.

Keep yer powder dry,

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Yep, on the top of the receiver under the crest is M48.

I've worked the action quite a lot, the bolt is smooth (after taking it apart and scrubbing the bejesus out of everything), I've loaded some live rounds just to see if it'll seat, it does.

On the barrel between the front sight and barrel band, all that is stamped is "M48 Yugo 8mm", which I assume is odd, they wouldn't put "Yugo" on a weapon, much like we wouldn't put "Yank" on an U.S. rifle...

Since my M1a stock is being BLO'd, maybe I'll take the Yugo to the range this weekend.
What is stamped between the barrel band and front sight is part of the import stamp. Look for another line marked CIA ST ALBANS VT. It is possible it will be very faint. The M48 were imported from Syria and Iraq.

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The 1st Rifle that I ever Re Barreled was a Yugo M48. I went to my LGS and saw a nice Looking Mauser on the Rack marked 49.95. I couldn't understand why such a clean looking Rifle was so Cheap. Looking down the Bore told the story. It looked like the inside of a Sewer Pipe. I walked out without the Rifle for Obvious reasons, but while reading the Shotgun News a couple of Days later I saw an Ad for Surplus Israeli LR Mauser Barrels Chambered in 7.62 Nato for $15.95. I went back to the Store and the Mauser was still on the Rack. I purchased the Rifle, and Ordered a Barrel. The New Barrel arrived soon after and I went to work. A Large Adjustable Wrench held the Receiver Ring, and a Pipe Wrench removed the old Barrel.
I had to make a set of Aluminum Vise Jaws which I lined with sheet Lead to Torque the new BBL, then I Unsoldered the Sights and re Installed them on the new BBL. Final touch was a Rubdown with Cold Blue. I didn't have a Head space Gage but could feel the stripped Bolt face Rub on the case head of a New Round. Gun Looked New and shot like a dream. Man that must have been over 40yrs ago. I've Barrelled a lot of Mausers since then.

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My 48A has a very slight import stamp near the muzzle. Never have used a head space gauge on it. I did have to clean about 5 lbs of cosmoline out of it before I could shoot it. All numbers (receiver, bolt, stock) matching with a bore in such good condition I don't believe it had ever been fired.

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I got mine in new condition when the surplus of them was at it's peak. $99.00 cash & carry at a gun show.
Next gun show I found a 1400 round case of Turkish 8mm for it in a wooden crate holding a sealed tin. Inside that it was all in bandoleers on stripper clips - all for $65.00! Dem we da days!

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I would also recommend checking the headspace, because you never know. Years ago (late '80s) an LGS had Czech VZ-24s for a decent price, the ones on the shelf left a lot to be desired... the clerk, went into the back, and brought one out, that they had just got in... from an importer with the initials... C.I.A. It was beautiful, strong bluing on all of the metal, receivers crest sharp, excellent wood... you could say at 95% of "as new"... bolt didn't match, but no biggie back then, new bolts were cheap and plentiful. Bore sharp and "shiny"!

I took it home, and attempted to get some of the cosmolene out of the bore, with some degreaser, and a patch, to check the "headspace". As I sprayed the degreaser into the barrel, I was met with a "flood of degreaser" coming out of the stock and handguard. I fashioned a spanner to remove the lower band, and removed the handguard... there staring me in the face was a 14mm hole bored into the chamber, from above!!!

Due to the condition of the receiver, I kept it, but not before I "Bent a few ears", on liability issues. After that the LGS started issuing disclaimers with all surplus weapons, and a signed affidavit from the purchaser that they would have the weapon checked by a gunsmith prior to firing.

I never did receive a response from the "importer", and as far as I am concerned, I haven't, and will not do any business with them any more.
Now that is one Heck of a Loaded Chamber Indicator

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Now that is one Heck of a Loaded Chamber Indicator
Yeah, talk about having a bad day!... That was part of my message, both to the dealer, and Importer... about turning the upper handguard, into a wooden "grenade", and myself picking European walnut splinters out of my facial, and unmentionable areas...
Probably why I didn't get a response from the Importer...

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