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Old March 4th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #1
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91-30 $79.00 Economical Sniper-Update Range Test

I had this $79.00 rifle laying around. Discovered the dove tail under the rear sight. So I decided to try and make it shoot better after doing the wood on it.
The recoil from 182gr. Bulgarian was such, I put long bolts through the rail with nuts and lock washers to hold it. Blue lock tite too. The Leatherwood scope shook off anyway. So to secure for the harsh recoil, I drilled and tapped a locking screw through the top off the rail. Problem solved. So far, 100 rounds, so good.
Cleaned up the front sight, and put a locking screw in the hand guard ring in the rear. It was not shooting as accurate as I hoped, so off came the stock, routed the barrel channel out helped a lot. It shoots pretty good now.
Nothing permanately altered but a small hole in rear ring and sight block, which is covered when rear sight is put back in place. A consideration, since these aren't $79.00 rifles anymore!
Since they made 21 million of them I thought I'd play a little, since this was rated a 2 out of 10 on the collector scale. The fun factor has passed up the collector factor for me in this project.
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Old March 4th, 2017, 12:56 PM   #2
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Good looking old 91/30, indeed!

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Old March 5th, 2017, 04:37 AM   #3
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Check the crown, too, when I was in to surplus I never had one with a good crown and re-crowned them all, turned them from ok or good shooters to excellent shooters.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 02:33 PM   #5
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That did not cost $79.00! But it's very Nice!!!
Is it an original from Russia? Who built it?

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Old March 5th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #6
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I like the 91/30. Great rifle from the Great War and still reliable as any other bang stick. I have an all matching sniper in the safe. I'd love to have a nice BLO finish on her but I just don't want to tamper with the originality of it. Range report/pics coming op?

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I've got new 7.62x54R brass waiting in the wings for load development. I want to slug the bbl. to find out the real dia. Then maybe find out what it will do.
While testing the scope mount, brass 182gr. Bulgarian surplus@ 50yds. stayed in the center target easy. It's on the things to do list. Point of impact did not stray when heating up either. Might work well, may shake itself apart. Time will tell.
Still beats going to work.

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Mine's a Russian rework into a sniper. So, I didn't feel bad about refinishing the stock that was getting a little dark & flaky, I did the proper finish which is amber/red shellac cut with alcohol, not the most durable finish, but, that's what they originally used. The scope has been properly set up & dialed-in, so, the post reticle is centered and functional as it should be. And, I installed a Timney trigger that's scary light. She shoots as good as she looks!

I've slugged and reloaded for a couple of these. The Russian bores tend to run large with the grooves averaging .313-.314 and the lands at .301, so, you'll want to use .303 Brit bullets like the 174 SMK, but, for safety's sake slugging the bore is a must to make sure what you have, as Finnish Mosin's tend to run truer to .308 dia. Best to go with LEE dies IMHO as the most economical choice, if you have the larger bore dia then you'll have to order the .303 Brit inside neck sizer/decapper from Lee for a few extra bucks as the die set only comes with the one for .308.

I've loaded these using 41.5-43.5 of W748, and 41.5-44.0 of IMR4895 getting around 2523 FPS with the hotter loads...

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Old March 9th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #10
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Range Report On Econo-Sniper 1942 Izhevsk 91-30

Went out to the range to sress test this rifle at various distances. Just used Bulgarian 182gr. surplus ammo.
No malfunctions of this rifle were noted. Scope held zero through out test.
2x7x32 Leatherwood, trigger=smoothed original.
It seems as though this rifle might have the potential to shoot better with some tested hand loads. But that's another day.
Besides with all the surplus ammo laying around, I don't want another reloading work order.
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I guess you could bed the stock if you wanted to but that shoots fine IMO.

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The Finns had a couple methods of using cork & wooden shims to do a bedding job, some folks have experimented with beer cans & playing cards etc. and been successful. With mine to install the Timney trigger pack I had to do quite a bit of inletting to the stock, so I used steel epoxy to reinforce the receiver, trigger and wrist areas around the action bolts, and ended up getting the same benefit as a bedding job.

Most of them are pretty accurate as is...

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