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Old January 29th, 2017, 10:14 AM   #1
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What model Mauser do I have???

I need a little help identifying exactly what I have. My uncle gave me a sporterized 8mm Mauser that is very nice but I can find no markings on it. Gun is engraved and inlaid but all marking were either removed or engraved over. The safety moves up 90* to engage if that helps identify.
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Old January 29th, 2017, 10:57 AM   #2
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Bigger/ more up close pics might help

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Old January 29th, 2017, 11:13 AM   #3
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Old January 29th, 2017, 12:21 PM   #4
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The claw mounts for optics fitting is a give away that it is of high quality as well as the engraving. Most likely pre war for Germany has never produced such level of rifles since those days other than a very few small one off makers. Your safety wing I would think does not go quite to the 90 deg. position in order to make for clearance of an optic/scope.
Your rifle is a classic example of high quality Mausers built for the upper echelon of society and still available today but price is something on the order of a new automobile. Your uncle was very generous to you.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 12:33 PM   #5
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It did not start life as a Mauser sporting rifle, it was military issue- stripper clip guide and thumb cut in the left receiver rail. It's a Mauser 98 large ring military action. Other than that, it's really hard to say, it could be any of a dozen manufacturers and customized later.

It would take a really close inspection to find things like proof marks or minor machining features that could ID it as to manufacturer or time frame.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #6
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I removed it from the stock to clean and did not find any markings. Should I be concerned that I have not found a serial number yet?

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Old January 29th, 2017, 01:50 PM   #7
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I wouldn't be. So what? Just means you probably wouldn't be able to take it abroad. It may still have one that's buried under the artwork somewhere.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 04:00 PM   #8
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Very hard to say, could also be post war, done in Germany for A US service man stationed there, I have seen a few examples, very nice work. It is definitely Eroupean, not US custom work. Was your Uncle ever in Eroupe?

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Old January 29th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #9
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Serial numbers were not required to be on firearms until 1968 by the Gun Control Act.

I would not be concerned with the lack of a serial number on a vintage rifle that old.

Beautiful rifle you have there.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 05:50 PM   #10
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safety and the bolt handle EWr heavily modified, might have started out as a mil action but it's extensively reworked (not to be a master of the obvious). Without any markings, and it is indeed OK pre-68 with no serial number, it's probably all just a guess.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 08:16 PM   #11
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He was never overseas that I know of. He has just always collected guns and knives. His kids care nothing about guns accept to sell them. I love tinkering with and shooting them. Guess I am lucky enough to share his passion. I have loaded up some test loads to try this weekend to try and discover what it likes to eat. Any advice on loads or what bullet weights would be great. I have Hornady and PPU brass from Midway as well as various weight bullets. So far I'm just picking loads from the Sierra load manual.

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Old January 29th, 2017, 10:11 PM   #12
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Its a beautiful specimen. I like that sleek bolt handle.

There appears to be a crest on the front ring. Can you get a very close shot of that?

Also, any Mausers customized to that extent probably have some makings on the barrel. Take a close look.

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Old January 30th, 2017, 02:42 AM   #13
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Crankyhat, if I was you, I'd slug the barrel, to see what actual bore diameter is, before shooting it.
Since it's origin date is questionable, if it was born between WWI and WWII, it could have a smaller bore .318" versus .323".
It is a beautiful piece of art, good luck with your endeavor!

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I've seen rifles like this out of Europe, though this one is slightly tamer by comparison, ornate and over the top embellishments, some are called "Guild Rifles", meaning a gunsmith had to produce one as an example of his art to be excepted into the guild.

Also, looks to me like there may be someone's initials on the trigger guard, either the maker, or the noble person he made it for. This rifle would have been owned by someone well off I think...

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Old January 30th, 2017, 06:39 AM   #15
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I did slug the barrel and it is .323. Not a crest on top of receiver but a deer. Same on floorplate .
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