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Old January 28th, 2017, 03:50 AM   #1
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Pre-War Mauser in 30/06?

I am looking through gunsamerica listings and see several pre-war Mausers in great condition with nazi stamps, no import stamps?
Why aren't, these rifles chambered in 8mm Mauser?
I assume they were rechambered in Europe? Wouldn't that greatly reduce value?
The 8mm cartridge was used by the German empire in both World Wars.
These rifles listed are very expensive imho. I don't get it.
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Old January 28th, 2017, 06:54 AM   #2
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How do you know they are pre war? If they have Nazi stamps it sounds like they are war era rifles to me. If so then they are most likely Norwegen conversions to NATO spec. They had the converted K98's for many years in Norway. Most were converted to 30-06. They were rechambered and the magazine well was augmented to fit the slightly longer cartridge. Aside from that most of the components are original and matching to the rifle. They di a slight, angled cut to the left side of the receiver and added their own serial number to the receiver, butt plate and bolt. Along with unit designation.. i.e .. Air Force, Army etc.


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Old January 28th, 2017, 07:01 AM   #3
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Mauser Sporting Rifles (Type A, B, C, M and S) were all available in .30-06 up until the mid 1930's. The caliber stamp is usually marked as US1906, or similar. In nice condition, these run $3-10k, sometimes more, regardless of caliber.

Mauser Military Rifles in .30-06 are usually the ones rebarreled by Norway after the war. They will have a flat spot on the receiver ring where they were restamped.

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Interesting,
My source of information that caused me questioning the 30-06 clambering is what I gleaned from the sellers notes in the gunsamerica adds

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Old January 28th, 2017, 11:48 AM   #5
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My BIL's Mauser is stamped 30 on the receiver but it has South American markings.
It is a 30-06 but the wonderful people who re chambered it left a 8MM Barrel on it.
At least I think it is 8MM because a 30 cal cartridge placed in the muzzle goes in past the Neck LOL.

By the way it will hold a 30 inch group at 25 yards.....sometimes!

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Might just have a badly worn muzzle. What do you shoot in it? Try dropping a .308 bullet down bore, see how far it goes?

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Old January 28th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #7
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My BIL's Mauser is stamped 30 on the receiver but it has South American markings.
It is a 30-06 but the wonderful people who re chambered it left a 8MM Barrel on it.
At least I think it is 8MM because a 30 cal cartridge placed in the muzzle goes in past the Neck LOL.

By the way it will hold a 30 inch group at 25 yards.....sometimes!
Not quite sure why you are shooting it if you don't even know what it's chambered for or the bore diameter. Good way to get hurt.

It might be an 8MM-06, which was a popular wildcat after WWII. Essentially you recut the chamber in an 8MM barrel with a .30-06 reamer. .30-06 brass is slightly larger than 8MM, so you can get a clean chamber. Then you simply load 8MM bullets in .30-06 brass. Sierra has loads for this in their manual.

Many surplus Mauser receivers came into this country with .30 stampings, but that does not mean that's what it is actually chambered in. A reputable gunsmith would remark the receiver or barrel if he changed the rifle to a different cartridge chambering, so folks don't get hurt.

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Old January 28th, 2017, 12:27 PM   #8
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Might just have a badly worn muzzle. What do you shoot in it? Try dropping a .308 bullet down bore, see how far it goes?
YoYo Head shot a 7X57 Mauser in it. I was under cover as I told him it was rechambered.
He made the prettiest Fire Formed 30.06 I have ever seen.
I used my 7.62X51 M80 as the 30 Cal (above post) to see how loose the bore is.
There is visible rifling.

It is a $125.00 POJ. I told him to go spend some money.
He bought it online from a Pawn/Gun shop thinking (and being told) it was 7MM.
The Guy offered all his money back + shipping but the BIL
Just kept it because sending it back would entail effort!

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Sorry for the Hijack I just want you to be careful with the Guns that are out there.

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