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Old December 9th, 2016, 02:33 PM   #1
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Holidays project any mauser gurus?

Picked up this less than stellar beauty from a local college kid. It is an 8mm large ring mauser, that's where my knowledge quits on me. Front sight doesn't look German so that rules that country out. No crest or signs of one. No numbers match, looks like patina was knocked off exposed barrel and bolt but don't care about the "value". It works and there's plenty of good rifling left.
Tried to get pics of markings the best I could. He thinks it's Polish. Any help is appreciated.






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Old December 9th, 2016, 02:49 PM   #2
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pitcher number 2 has what looks like a Japanese Chrysanthemum on it?

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Old December 9th, 2016, 03:22 PM   #3
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I hate to be the pessimist here, but there are Mauser copies out there that are not real rifles- made in mud huts in villages, in places like Pakistan and India, metal is basically mashed potato metal from melted down car parts and pots and pans. Some of these rifles are unsafe to shoot. I'd put some effort into finding out for sure where that rifle was made, and have it inspected by a gunsmith. $40 for an inspection is cheap insurance.

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Old December 9th, 2016, 04:28 PM   #4
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Alright I've been reading up on the markings and think I've got the action narrowed down to a vz 24 based on the z inside of a c stamped in it. The bolt came from somewhere else. The front sight has me baffled though.

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Czech made VZ24. Pre German occupation it looks like. No rampant Lion crest on receiver top? The "mum" looking marking is generally a "previously" unaccepted part that was fixed and passed muster to be used later. Value is shot if the crest was removed, not to mention mismatched serial numbers. Value would be around $150 ?? maybe. Good plinker to use up some 8mm ammo. They are great shooters.

Front sight is exactly as it should be on a VZ24. They have special front sight covers for them that are around and cheap money to buy if you decide to attach one.

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Old December 9th, 2016, 04:53 PM   #6
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That's exactly what I got it for! Found a few bandoleers, and boxes of ammo while going through one of my boxes of stuff a while ago. Thinking it's going to get the barrel cut back to 18" and a scout scope mount. If I could find a reliable reproduction trench mag it'd get that too. Those don't seem to exist though so I guess that's out.

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I don't recognize the front sight, could be an add on maybe williams front sight? Be careful with 8mm Mauser J and S designated ammo! http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/8mm-...fle-cartridge/

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That's exactly what I got it for! Found a few bandoleers, and boxes of ammo while going through one of my boxes of stuff a while ago. Thinking it's going to get the barrel cut back to 18" and a scout scope mount. If I could find a reliable reproduction trench mag it'd get that too. Those don't seem to exist though so I guess that's out.
You'll lose accuracy with a barrel reduction length.

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Old December 9th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #9
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I'm really not expecting this pig to be pounding tacks regardless of barrel length. Besides that, barrel length doesn't really correlate into accuracy, especially with a scope.

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You may gain accuracy with a shorter barrel. Shorter barrels are stiffer and the muzzle may have serious wear and cutting it back will get you back into the good stuff. I wouldn't worry about it if you want it shorter.

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Front sight almost looks like it's from an "American" Enfield, P14 or P17. I've had a couple VZ-24s, and while they use a different front sight base than a German or Yugo, they don't have "ears".
That rear sight slide is the first I have ever seen with a "round" release button.
CZ had an export boom between the First World War, and Germany's rise in the mid 30s, some that were even "unmarked" for "covert" sales so to speak.
As mentioned, I would verify that the headspace is safe, and as mentioned earlier, you may want to slug the barrel to determine it's bores true groove diameter, .318 or .323.

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Old December 10th, 2016, 07:20 PM   #12
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The bore diameter is what I'm more concerned with than anything else really. Makes for a big difference in cartridge pressure.

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The bore diameter is what I'm more concerned with than anything else really. Makes for a big difference in cartridge pressure.
And accuracy. Slug the barrel and mike it to determine wear. You can also quickly determine muzzle wear by inserting a new 8mm Mauser cartridge the bullet first in the muzzle. If the bullet goes more than half way you have wear and erosion. If it's really sloppy and bottoms out on the casing walk away. This Youtube video applies and I use it to evaluate and has worked out for me.

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Not concerned with muzzle wear really as its gonna get chopped.

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Not concerned with muzzle wear really as its gonna get chopped.
You'll still need to check bore and chamber wear. By checking the muzzle wear for erosion should help you determine those factors for further testing and measurements. Also make sure the chamber is scrubbed and clean along with the bolt face or you'll have feed chambering problems. I had issues with my Chilean 95 carbine till I figured it out the problem. Have fun with your new project

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