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This is a discussion on AK47 vs AK74 within the Foreign forums, part of the Gun Forum category; I believe the '74 is flatter shooting for greater distance. We're talking well beyond the standard >400yd typical trajectory of the '47. That said, it ...


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Old January 22nd, 2017, 03:08 AM   #16
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I believe the '74 is flatter shooting for greater distance. We're talking well beyond the standard >400yd typical trajectory of the '47.

That said, it depends on which one you want and for what reason. '47 is harder is cinderblocks and walls, '74 is better for distance and more controllable at higher rates of fire. Round is supposed to tumble reliably as well.

Ammo is more scarce for the '74. 7.62x39 is 20 rounds for $4, ammo doesn't tumble as reliably, but packs a harder punch at closer ranges.

Guns are tools, different tools for different needs. Generally a .223 will substitute already if you don't have the '74.

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Going on memory here some reading I've done over the years. The Russians became impressed with our 5.56x45mm - M193 ball because of the tissue damage the little 55 grainer FMJ did during Vietnam, although not designed to do so, it had a nasty habit of yawing in tissue upon impact and separating at the cannelure & crimp, ricocheting around the body etc. producing nasty wounds.

They set out to reproduce that with their 5.45x39mm round and it was based on the .220 Russian & 6mm PPC bench rest cartridges, as I said above they purposely set out to produce a bullet that was barely stable & launched from a barrel with a twist rate to accommodate, if you've ever gotten those "keyholes" in your target that's why. Notice the cutaway of the 7n6 "Poison Pill" above? It has an airspace in the tip and is back heavy to promote tumbling on impact. It's a NASTY little round!

We on the other hand decided to go with the SS109/M855 as the Army felt the need to punch Soviet helmets & body armor on European battlefields, the downside is it's a much more stable round and not nearly as damaging in tissue as either M193 or 7n6...

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Is the 7n6 still banned from import?

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Old February 4th, 2017, 11:28 AM   #19
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Is the 7n6 still banned from import?
As of right now, yes 7n6 is still banned from import, it is considered "armor piercing" and there was a pistol made in 5.45x39

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The 7n6 is still banned from import but there is tons of it out there on the market
To be honest the Russian white box is still out there its not marked 7n6 so you can still find it in Mom and Pop gun stores and pawn shops.
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5.45X39 Trajectory chart:

https://savannaharsenal.com/2017/02/...5x39mm-soviet/

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As of right now, yes 7n6 is still banned from import, it is considered "armor piercing" and there was a pistol made in 5.45x39
If I remember correctly 7n6 doesn't meet the definition of armor piercing ammo yet here we are.

18 U.S.C., 921(a)(17)(B)

A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

A full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

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If 5.45X39 runs out, I will just rebarrel my AK74 with a 5.56X45 barrel.

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If I remember correctly 7n6 doesn't meet the definition of armor piercing ammo yet here we are.

18 U.S.C., 921(a)(17)(B)

A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

A full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
ATF ruled that is was "armor piercing" and a pistol was designed and was coming to market in 5.45x39 so 7n6 was banned.

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