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Old April 18th, 2016, 06:24 PM   #1
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Ak 74 - battlefield pick-up

In looking for something to make our Run&Gun event more interesting I bought an AK74, Bulgarian parts kit on ITM '74 receiver...I think. USA non-chrome barrel. The rifle won't arrive for another day or so.

You can buy a "grade AR15" for less than I paid for this rifle. They're not as cheap since Obama won't let the Ruskies import them anymore.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask you guys what you think. I've read that the AK 74 is more accurate than the AK 47. I won't be using corrosive ammo. Thankfully, you CANNOT accessorize them like an AR. I'll probably get a trigger job done and mount a red dot or a fixed 3 or 4x scope for my use. "Fight your way to a rifle" is the stage, except it won't be your rifle. Pistol for close-in shots and the AK 74 (open sights) for 150 yard plates.

As a point of difference we used a pistol/Remington 870 combination for a stage the past 2 years. Shooting a 12 gauge at stationery targets in 25 yard range is a yawner. I'm thinking this will be better. I'll probably use stripper clips. They load it, they fire it.

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Old April 18th, 2016, 09:37 PM   #2
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The 74 is a more accurate rifle.
Flatter shooting and faster bullet.
I wouldn't worry about using corrosive ammo at all just clean the gun after using it.
Red Army 5.45X39 is not corrosive and still pretty cheap to shoot.
They do make tactical fore grips with rails on them so you can tac it out a little.
I have found the corrosive 7N6 surplus ammo shoots very well but its in short supply and more expensive.
My Bulgarian AK74 has shot well out to 500 yards with a Russian PSO scope and 300 is very doable with irons.

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Old April 19th, 2016, 02:56 AM   #3
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I love the concept of the stage. 74's are nice too. I'd just run corrosive (7N6) if I were you.

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Old April 19th, 2016, 05:11 AM   #4
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AK74s are great guns - I picked up an Arsenal SLR104 a few months ago and it's become one of my favorite guns to shoot. The ammo has become more expensive than it used to be but you can still find Wolf and Golden Tiger 5.45 at decent bulk prices. I can't comfortably use corrosive ammo due to the fact that NJ requires that the brake be pinned/welded, so I'd never be able to really clean the gun as thoroughly as needed.

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Old April 19th, 2016, 06:37 AM   #5
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You can buy a "grade AR15" for less than I paid for this rifle. They're not as cheap since Obama won't let the Ruskies import them anymore.
Yours is Bulgarian, and they are still imported. But AKs aren't experiencing the deep discounts ARs currently are - likely from an over-production glut following the Sandy Hook drought.

I'd love to do one of the "run and guns", but I'm so out of practice (and out of shape) I'd be humiliated.

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The ammo has become more expensive than it used to be but you can still find Wolf and Golden Tiger 5.45 at decent bulk prices.
I wish Golden Tiger 5.45 was still available; none has been imported in 2 or 3 years. My understanding is it was all bought up by the Russian government to fill contracts before it could be allocated to the U.S. consumer. Too bad, too.

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Old April 19th, 2016, 10:33 AM   #6
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CJTulsa, there is an event every year in Pawnee, OK. It's Jan or Feb. So as not to embarrass myself, I'm trying to get in shape for an event outside Junction in June. A success story for me is to finish in the middle of the pack.
It's no excuse but the AR 5.56 & Glock 19's rule the roost. I'm carrying a Socom or a Scout and a hi-cap 1911 in .45acp. Typically, I use about a third the ammo that the AR guys use but their times will be better. Last Sunday I changed my game plan. On my practice stations I too fired a lot more rounds to make the required hits. My times improved substantially. It brings a tear to my eye to be dumping that much ammo down range, but it works. They're shooting quarters and I'm shooting dollar bills. I always have used quality ammo.

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Yes - the "Pawnee Run-N-Gun". I've been invited by some local guys to do it, but I'm out of shape and haven't shot enough lately to even make a showing. I've still considered it, and hear it's a pretty good time. I need to hit it up, as it's probably an hour or less from me. They also have a summer one, but my God it gets hot and humid here, so I'd be more inclined to start with the winter edition. Good luck on your upcoming event!

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Have fun with the run and gun biped.
Its fun but I'm nowhere near quick enough to compete.

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Yeah - SG Ammo's website has been showing "notify when back in stock" on the Golden Tiger 5.45 seemingly forever. I've been hoarding the GT that I have and using mostly Wolf and Red Army Standard. I've got some TulAmmo too, but I really can't stand the way that stuff smells.

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I like my DDI AK74.

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5.45 x 39 ammo

The 7n6 steel ammo is drying up but I got a can of 1080 from a guy on AuctionArms last night @ 26 cents a round. Corrosive primers.

On the Run&Gun events, my first was in 2008 or '09. Embarassing! I finished in 27th place out of 29 participants. I just didn't know enough. Gamesmanship enters into it and gear and practice from awkward shooting positions. If you can volunteer as a Range Officer the first year you can get a better idea of how you'd do. Still, there are guys/gals that mostly walk/route step the course and take a low run score just to shoot the stations. It's not the best for the event sometimes as it keeps the RO's on the course longer but about 10 to 15% participants are in that category. You've still got to be in reasonable condition to route step 5 miles with water/pistol/rifle/ammo.

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i got the best accuracy out of the 7n6. Corrosion was never a problem.

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Old December 27th, 2016, 08:56 PM   #13
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I agree the 7n6 is more accurate than the Red Army Std.

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Old December 28th, 2016, 04:59 AM   #14
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I really like my SLR104FR, 5.45x39 is a great round


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In looking for something to make our Run&Gun event more interesting I bought an AK74, Bulgarian parts kit on ITM '74 receiver...I think. USA non-chrome barrel. The rifle won't arrive for another day or so.

You can buy a "grade AR15" for less than I paid for this rifle. They're not as cheap since Obama won't let the Ruskies import them anymore.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask you guys what you think. I've read that the AK 74 is more accurate than the AK 47. I won't be using corrosive ammo. Thankfully, you CANNOT accessorize them like an AR. I'll probably get a trigger job done and mount a red dot or a fixed 3 or 4x scope for my use. "Fight your way to a rifle" is the stage, except it won't be your rifle. Pistol for close-in shots and the AK 74 (open sights) for 150 yard plates.

As a point of difference we used a pistol/Remington 870 combination for a stage the past 2 years. Shooting a 12 gauge at stationery targets in 25 yard range is a yawner. I'm thinking this will be better. I'll probably use stripper clips. They load it, they fire it.
Congrats on your new rifle.
Here's an interesting video for you:
AK-74: Fast Assembly & Disassembly In Russian School

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