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February 11th, 2012, 10:03 PM
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#1 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 2,313
| Mauser question
Anyone have any idea of some good big bore cartridges that are suitable for the mauser action?
what about just going with 300winmag?
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February 11th, 2012, 10:18 PM
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#2 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 444
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There are alot to chose from long cartridges and short cartridges.
These are what i would go with if it where mine .
Long cartridges
25-06
30-06
270 win.
300 win. mag.
Short cartridges
.308 win.
.30-30 win.
.243 win.
Hope this helps.
Good Shooting.
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February 11th, 2012, 11:15 PM
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#3 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrounded in Central California
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If you are planning on using the Intermediate length Mauser 98s (Yugos 24/47/48) 243 Win, 257 Roberts, 25-06, 260
Rem. 350 Rem Mag, 7mm-08 and 308
Win. If you are using a standard length Mauser 98s, then almost anything between a 270 Win up to a 458 Win Mag will fit and work.
My recently finished Mauser "Sniper" rifle. A Yugo action in a 308 Win. 
My 300 Win Mag on a standard length Mauser98.  
My son's 300 Win Mag. 
2 376 Steyrs built on standard 98 actions.....soon to be converted to 375 Ruger. 
35 Whelen on standard 98 action. 
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February 11th, 2012, 11:19 PM
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#4 | | Squad Leader
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Gatlinburg Tennessee, the Smoky Mountains
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Mauser actions have been made in calibers all the way up to the .500 Jeffery and .505 Gibbs. The .416 Rigby was designed when the Mauser 98 Magnum action came out and Rigby was Mausers sole English agent. There have been tons made in .458 win, .404 Jeffery, .425 Westley Richards, .375H&H, the list goes on forever.
Are you asking what will fit in a standard/military action or just the top end of the boomer scale? What type of game do you have in mind?
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February 17th, 2012, 08:04 PM
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#5 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 2,313
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I was thinking elk or dangerous game/ long range
thats why i was thinking 300 win mag. but its a yugo24/47
maybe i should just stick with 8mm. it seems ok. I can get sub min accuracy at 100 but i have yet to shoot it out to 4-500 yet to see how that holds up. Thats with nosler partition custom ammo.
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February 20th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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#6 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The Last Best Place
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Very few factory 8mm loads unleash the full potential of the cartridge. I didn't see 8mm on Nosler's website, so I don't know that weight/muzzle velocity you're shooting. With your own loads the 8mm cartridge should work fine though, if you're willing to do that.
For reference, the Yugo surplus I feed mine is 198gr @ 2430fps, 2596 ft*lbs of energy, according to Prvi Partizan's website. Their data is divided into "8x57 IS", "8x57 IRS", and "8mm Mauser". My ammo is IS, IRS loads are around 2433 ft*lbs, "8mm Mauser" loads are around 2110 ft*lbs or less.
The 24/47 should be able to handle the angrier IS loads (often called JS in the US), I think the "8mm Mauser" loads are weaker because Model 98 actions prior to 1905 were designed for the M/88 cartridge, which is less powerful than the IS.
Sorry if you already knew this :P
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February 20th, 2012, 05:26 PM
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#7 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 2,313
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heres my dope 200gr partition 2475 they are they JS loads
heres the link its right before 338 win mag.
they are currently sold out (they don't make a lot)
check often its well worth the money. i threw away the targets but my rifle shoots sub moa easy (@100yards) I'm gonna do a full review on the stock and rifle and posts some actual range data.
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February 20th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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#8 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrounded in Central California
Posts: 640
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Originally Posted by LausDeo  Very few factory 8mm loads unleash the full potential of the cartridge. I didn't see 8mm on Nosler's website, so I don't know that weight/muzzle velocity you're shooting. With your own loads the 8mm cartridge should work fine though, if you're willing to do that.
For reference, the Yugo surplus I feed mine is 198gr @ 2430fps, 2596 ft*lbs of energy, according to Prvi Partizan's website. Their data is divided into "8x57 IS", "8x57 IRS", and "8mm Mauser". My ammo is IS, IRS loads are around 2433 ft*lbs, "8mm Mauser" loads are around 2110 ft*lbs or less.
The 24/47 should be able to handle the angrier IS loads (often called JS in the US), I think the "8mm Mauser" loads are weaker because Model 98 actions prior to 1905 were designed for the M/88 cartridge, which is less powerful than the IS.
Sorry if you already knew this :P | The early 8mms (7.9x57) had a smaller bore (.318") and shallower rifling, but it was discovered that those bores/rifling erroded to quickly. So, the rifling was deepened and the bores enlarged to the current .323".
US ammo is downloaded so that load with a larger diameter bullet isn't put in a rifle with a small bore and blow it up. However, during the 1st WW, the Germans could not build rifles fast enough so they took many rifles with the older smaller bores and opened the throats up so the newer ammo could be chambered. Rifles were then issued.
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February 20th, 2012, 07:17 PM
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#9 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 2,313
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i wonder how fast a full load will fly with the 200gr partition, though accubond would be better no?
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February 20th, 2012, 09:05 PM
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#10 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: May 2006 Location: Surrounded in Central California
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German WW2 ammo was standardised around the 198 gr bullet, rated at 2476 fps from a 23.62" barrel. 2575 fps from a 29.13" barrel. Chamber pressure 46,926 psi.
German WW1 ammo was a 154 gr bullet, rated at 2854 fps from a 23.62" barrel. 2936 fps from a 29.13" barrel. Chamber pressure 44,082 psi.
Last edited by Sailormilan2; February 21st, 2012 at 05:56 AM.
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February 22nd, 2012, 04:21 PM
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#11 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I would like to build a .416 Taylor on a 1909 Argentine action I have in the safe, The 416 Taylor is basically a 458 Win Mag necked down to .416 caliber.
I have a 300 Win Mag built up on a Brno 98 Mauser but its kind of a freak, it has a 27" 1 1/4" dia heavy barrel, full palm swell laminated stock and a old Redfield 6-18 5 star scope. it is very accurate but it weighs about 19lbs.
Casey
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February 22nd, 2012, 06:36 PM
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#12 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Union OR.
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[I]f your action has a Bbl. in 8mm/32cal and is still good think about re chambering it to 06 that would 8mm/06 Poor mans Mag. 125 gn too 220 gn and that was back in the seventies. With that multi steped Bbl. done up as a sporter in a streight Monti Carlo stock what a thing of beauty for serious hunting.
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February 22nd, 2012, 06:40 PM
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#13 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Union OR.
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[I]f your action has a Bbl. in 8mm/32cal and is still good think about re chambering it to 06 that would be 8mm/06 a Poor mans Mag. 125 gn too 220 gn and that was back in the seventies. With that multi steped Bbl. done up as a sporter in a streight Monti Carlo stock what a thing of beauty for serious hunting.
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February 22nd, 2012, 06:46 PM
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#14 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
Posts: 2,313
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hmm what do you have to do ? the bullets the same so it would just use the 30/06 case?
how is that accomplished? also i'd have to load the ammo myself right?
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February 22nd, 2012, 07:45 PM
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#15 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lacey, WA
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338-06
338 Scovill
35 Whelen
9.3 X 62
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