M14 Forum

jim-analog

Greetings,

Some years ago I had the opportunity to shoot a real MP5. It really did run like a "sewing machine" (much smoother than any of the other sub guns I'd shot) and I thought it was one of the nicest 9mm carbines I'd ever fired. Anyway, a full auto MP5 is WAY out of my $ reality. Was there ever a semi-auto version made and imported? Any ideas on availability/price? Thanks!

Regards, Jim

SOCOM42

Yes, they did import sa types i think h&k 94. They are way up in price also.

Bamban

There are also clones assembled here. They used to run about 1500

dprice3844444

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.aspx

islandermyk

Trying to get an actual H&K MP5 would cost you $2500 and up.
Getting a clone MP5 (in different variants) would run from $1300 and up and that's built with aftermarket parts (Not HK internal parts)*most times*. You can buy HK parts kit minus the receiver for the same amount, plus another $200 for a unbent stamped receiver and pay a gunsmith to build it for you (price?).
Only problem with clones is that while they were built... parts that don't match were just slapped on the rifle. Example: My HK94 clone had a trigger pack that was made for a .223 or a .308 HK rifle. So I was getting failure to ejects. It's a $130 fix. Now it shoots fine with no failures.
Buying a clone for $1300 and then adding actual HK internal parts would actually bring you to that $1800 mark and higher depending on you and the rifle. The other down side is the freaken mags... Actual HK stamped mags are damn expensive! You can't expect anything less owning an H&K..
But after overcoming all the obstacles of having a clone that don't work right, and getting all the knick knacks in order.. the cool factor is priceless.
If it's something to have in your collection just cause you've always wanted one.. I'd say go for it! It's a pretty cool project, but if it's for tactical uses to where your life depends on it.. I would rather get an AK or a M1A.
In my case, it was for the cool factor of always wanting one why I got mine. I'm at a little over $1500 all together on it so far which doesn't include what I spent on the mags and the mag clamp... and is still growing, lol! I'm hoping to SBR'ing it next year.

Bamban

Jim,

PM me if interested in one.

Nez

jim-analog

Greetings,

Thanks for the info! I've replied to all the PMs and hope to hear back. Anyway, went to Gunbroker (should have thought of that myself!) and did some looking around the 17 pages of stuff that came up. Wow, very confusing and I obviously need to learn much more about these before moving on.

Seems Vector and Cohare (sp) are the dominant "clone" versions available. Anyone know what degree of HK parts were used by either of them, the quality of their work, etc.? From what I recall, Vector did some decent quality Uzi clones but I don't know anything about Cohare.

I wasn't really intending to build up an MP5 from parts (but guess that could be an option) as I've already been through that with M14s and ARs. The HK parts are quite pricey, but as in everything else you usually get what you pay for. Further on, I'm sure there are specific tools, gauges, etc. that would add to the expense. That could turn into a pretty long term project and I'd more likely prefer a "ready to run" carbine unless that really would end up the best option. Any of you guys done such a build?

Who are the noted MP5 'smiths out there? Is there an MP5 discussion board somewhere? Where would you best start to collect data and knowledge for this type of project?

Thanks again!

Regards, Jim

boomer1983

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/

islandermyk

Here's another spot you can check out.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/category.aspx?cid=93

What you are looking out for is the trunnion on the clone. Gotta make sure it has the roller blow back system in there... I think the .22lr's are the only one without'em.. but I could be wrong. Most common thing to watch out for to avoid the failures to eject is the extractor and extractor spring, and then the trigger pack... some of these clones could have a trigger pack that was made for a higher caliber rifle (like what mine came with) restricting the bolt to flow back fully. It's a relatively cheap fix if your keeping it semi and just to have it function right...
Now If your planning to go full-auto... that's another story... we can get into that if your interested...

jim-analog

Greetings,

Thanks for the replies everyone! What I'm looking for exactly is a 9mm, semi-auto, factory HK (preferably) that has a 16" barrel. That way I could buy in now and do a form 1 to SBR it later on.

Man, the prices I've seen on GB are crazy for HK made and still very high for the clones. As this would pretty much just be a range "fun" carbine, I don't think I can justify the prices I've seen so far. It would certainly be very cool, but unless I've missed something I don't see a $5K semi auto in my foreseeable future.

Looking through the HK forum, seems there are a couple small firms doing custom builds. Not sure what degree of HK parts are being used and so on, but again the prices are way up there (priced like really nice M14s). I'll send off some emails next week and see what turns up, but I don't think this is going to fly.

Happy new year!

Regards, Jim

islandermyk

Here's a little inspiration for you...



It's a clone HK94 with only the trigger pack and extractor spring and extractor are the only thing HK on this one. It shoots fine and better than before. I could even take this one into an indoor shooting range cause it's a pistol caliber (9mm).. I plan to SBRing it... but I'm in the process of adding another piece into my collection... so the SBRing gotta wait...

steve12

More eye candy. This started off as a HK94. Bought it new in early 1986 and had it sent off for a MP5 conversion before the 86 machinegun ban.