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Old December 11th, 2011, 09:09 PM   #1
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Building a FAL?

Long story short, I used to have a nice dsa st58 and sold it to fund a vacation with a now ex girlfriend. its funny how hindsight can make you really want to kick yourself in the ass. But anyway I just bought a type 1 dsa receiver on gunbroker cause the guy lives just a few miles from me. My question is, does building an fal require as much work and knowledge as it takes to build an m14 clone or is it somewhat like building an ar-15. what tools and expertise are needed? am I better off sending it to a smith like most would do with a stripped m1a receiver or is this something that can be done by your average machanically inclined D.I.Y. kinda guy?

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Old December 11th, 2011, 09:55 PM   #2
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my guess is, FALs are sophisticated enough to warrant gunsmithing.

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Old December 11th, 2011, 11:20 PM   #3
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Find a gunsmith, make friends with them, and talk the price of the build down.

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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #4
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Just to give some back ground. I have built quite a few AKs, m14, M1 and have helped on quite a few AKs and another M1. I haven't built a FAL though and have always wanted to.

From what I understand they are pretty easy and are frequently built in the basement more so than the m14. I haven't built one but I've know people that have built them.

I believe the hardest part is the bolt, receiver, barrel fitment with regards to headspacing and barrel timing... No different than a m14. Once you get that then all the parts pretty much assembly together with minor fitting.

If you mechanically inclined and have some money to spend on tools(barrel vise, receiver wrench, headspace gauges, etc.) the go for it.

If you are not mechanically inclined and have limited funds then send it to a person that knows how to build FALs

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If you mechanically inclined and have some money to spend on tools(barrel vise, receiver wrench, headspace gauges, etc.) the go for it.

If you are not mechanically inclined and have limited funds then send it to a person that knows how to build FALs

pretty much this, much like the M14, tools will be required

Nothing like building an AR,

BUT not nearly as difficult as it sounds

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Old December 12th, 2011, 03:29 AM   #6
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FALs are EZ builds, the HS is extremely EZ to set & the design in general is very forgiving - Check out the Falfiles forum, depending on your location you can probably find a member that's close by..... Most of the fellas over there do their own builds & many will loan/rent the needed tools

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Old December 12th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #7
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thanks for all the help. after I find a good kit with the right barrel length and profile Ill start searching around for a smith or someone who has knowledge on putting one together. Ive ruled out buying the tools for a one time build. hopefully I can find reasonable smith that wont want an arm and leg to do it

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FALs are EZ builds, the HS is extremely EZ to set & the design in general is very forgiving - Check out the Falfiles forum, depending on your location you can probably find a member that's close by..... Most of the fellas over there do their own builds & many will loan/rent the needed tools
Ive never built one either but I have a bit of mechanical aptitude,the tools used to be available on loan for a depsit.A good sturdy vice/bench might be all the major tools youd need to provide.As Russel mentioned the weapons general design, headspace system of different thickness bbl shoulder washers and different sized locking shoulders makes bbl indexing- headspacing the chrome lined bbls a breeze compared to the garand/M14 system.I havent checked SGN lately but as recently as a year ago IIRC you could still buy brand new Imbel military chrome lined BBL's.I could sure kick myself for not building an FAL on a new Imbel reciever/BBL and exc parts kit back when the parts were so plentiful/inexpensive,it was similar to the chin SKS glut.

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Old December 12th, 2011, 11:56 AM   #9
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Google Weapons Guild and join that forum. Those guys have built at least one of every firearm kit available and invented a bunch more after they ran out of normal stuff to build. There are some very informative build stickies listed by firearm on kit builds and a bunch of knowledgeable people to ask questions if you need to.

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I'm not, by any means, a qualified gunsmith but I have built two FALs (Imbel kits on DSA receivers). Spending a LOT of time on the FalFiles was the key.

No, they aren't as simple as the AR (maybe unless you have installed your own barrel extension). You will need a set of gauge pins to determine the proper locking shoulder to correct headspace as well as a receiver vice/wrench and a barrel vice. Other than that, you probably have all the other tools you need. Some things like a buttstock spring tool makes the job much easier but not totally necessary.

Here is the first one I built now sporting a DSA scope mount and an old K 2.5x Weaver scope.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 02:19 PM   #11
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Google Weapons Guild and join that forum. Those guys have built at least one of every firearm kit available and invented a bunch more after they ran out of normal stuff to build. .
Weaponsguild is an awesome forum. Tell em bryjcom sent you!

http://www.weaponsguild.com/forum/index.php?board=48.0

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I've built a few. If you want to do it yourself you need a few tools to put on the barrel but after that it's pretty easy. You might want to build a couple to sort of off set the tool price.

My best advice is to get Arizonia Response System"s Fal build CD'S,a very detailed instruction that will tell you everything you need to know. Here is a STG-58 I built on a Imbel receiver and parked with Brownell's manganese parkerizing.
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Old December 12th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #13
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The other day I thought about building my own and was wondering if it wasps difficult as it sounds.

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Old December 12th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #14
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sweet looking fals you guys have there. Iv built ar's but with barrel extension already installed I cant emagine the headache of trying to install one myself. I wish all rifles had the barrel extension like the ar, makes em so easy to build. I definitly know the value of the stock removal tool, on my last fal I removed the stock to shorten it a couple inches and after several cuts and nicks and about an hour of trying to get the damn thing back on I finally threw in the towel and ordered the tool. after doin some searchin on GB I think I may have been better off buying a complete rifle. Those fal parts kits are scarce and pricey kind of like searchin for a good m14 parts kit these days by the time you buy the kit + receiver your pretty damn close to a factory build

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Old December 12th, 2011, 06:10 PM   #15
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I have heard those Argentina FAL kits that Sarco has are brand new and VERY GOOD. Wish I had the cash to build one.

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