M14 Forum

M14E2

Man , the 'expert' BS ya find elsewhere!

Original poster;
"Today i came across a remington mosin nagant at a local gun shop. I have never seen one of these before or ever heard anything about them. This has the remington stamp above the chamber and looks to be all original. There asking $350 for it. What are these worth? Im very interested in finding out more about these"



ANSWER;
" there is no such thing as a remington mosin nagant. mosin nagant is not a model of gun but a manufacturer. the 91/30 rifle is manufactured but the companies mosin and nagant in russia. remington is a US company and unless they bought out mosin and nagant, there is no rifle that would have all three stamps on the receiver that is legitimate. I would stay away from it."
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edporch

"...During 1915-1917 Remington produced 840,310 M1891 rifles, of which 131,400 had arrived in Russia by January 1917. In the same period Westinghouse made 770,000 rifles; 225,260 were delivered to Russia by January 1917. ..."

http://mosinnagant.net/ussr/us-mosin-nagants.asp

Stampeed Valkyrie

Beat me to it.

I just was doing some "light" ahem reading about this. Winchester, Remington and New England Westinghouse all made 91/30s


As for $350 if its all numbers matching and in pretty good shape I'd bite.

Swamp Rat

I would snatch it a heart beat depending on condition. Then I'd find out if it was carried on the Polar Bear Expeditions.

John Crusher

Winchester made the Model of 1895 in 7.62x54r. They did not make any bolt action rifles for the Russians. They were made on contract for Russia from 1915-1917 and approx. 293000 were delivered. The correct model of the Remington and Westinghouse rifles was the M91. The 91/30 was not produced until 1929 and adopted until 1930.

TimmyK2112

Minor terminology correction. Westinghouse and Remington never made a 91/30. The 91/30 designation is for rifles built to the new 1930 standards (28 3/4" barrel, metric sights and a globe front sight hood). The American made Mosins were the Model 1891s with the old imperial "arshin" sight graduations and the bladed front sight with no hood and and a 31 1/2" barrel.

John Crusher

O.K. What's your point ?

TimmyK2112

Remington and Westinghouse never made 91/30s. They only made M1891s

Earthquake

Were the Remington and westinghouse round or hexagon receivers?
I have a Russian built 91 with a hexagon receiver but I don't know what arsenal made it.
I'm looking for a complete receiver to build a 444 marlin bolt gun out of, the magazine will need a little work but it won't take much.

Casey

TimmyK2112

They were hex receivers. Here is a link you my find useful. http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRef02.htm