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January 9th, 2012, 06:05 PM
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#61 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NC
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Sweets, I had the same "no manual" problem with my SKS. I had a manual on order, which was a translation of the original Russian one. It was ok as far as technical stuff goes but really cool just from a history standpoint.
But what helped me break it down to de-cosmo it was the website surplusrifle.com . ...now my internet is pretty crappy so hopefully it's just me, but the site seems to be down unfortunately. Quote: |
Can be hard getting those 10rds off the stripper clips into the magazine.
| I've had zero problems in that regard with my Yugo. My Moisin Nagant on the other hand is IMPOSSIBLE with the stripper clips.
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January 11th, 2012, 08:43 PM
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#62 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: AFSOC country....again....
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Yeah, the SKS rifles are a pretty decent rifle for what they are. No, they're not going to replace my M1As, or FALs as my weapon of choice but they are still a pretty decent deal.
I started out years ago with a Chinese SKS that I picked up for $90. Yeah, missed out on the $75 SKS days but still $90 wasn't too bad. I must confess to an act of quasi-bubbaism in that the stock wasn't that great and started to the finish seemed to be flaking off it so I replaced it with a fiberglass jungle stock that is still on it to this day. Better stock IMHO but I did make sure to keep the original around though. She's probably the lightest and the spike bayonet also makes her the sleekest SKS I have but I did have a slight problem with it though. The bayonet when folded wouldn't lock up quite high enough and allowed the point of the bayonet a good oppertunity to snag on my hand if I wasn't careful. However, a couple whacks with a chisel on the side of the collar raised enough of a bur that now she folds up tight and out of the way. The other issue (perhaps) is that unlike my other SKS rifles, the barrel is a pinned version. Some will claim that this isn't as desireable as a screwed in barrel and it probably isn't but it also has not shown to be a detriment to accuracy or reliability.
A few years later, I came across a Russian model for $200 that I snatched up. Odd thing about this one is that there is no date stamp on it anywhere which is strange but from what I have learned, may indicate it to be a '55 or '56 model. The other thing about it is that I can't find any stamps or other markings to indicate that it was a re-arsenal job either. Now granted I'm more familiar with Mosin-Nagant markings but unless they changed those markings, this one may be original and all matching.  Out of my SKS collection, this one is has the best finish and attention to detail on it so that is a definate plus. However, with the blade bayonet that the Russians used, it's not as sleek as the Chinese version but it's not really a deal breaker, I just like the looks of the spike bayonet better.
My last SKS was bought just yesterday over at the Cabela's store in Sidney. This time I managed to pick up a 1969 vintage (sort of like yours truely) Yugo M59/66A1 in excellent condition. This one appears to have been re-arsenaled but that's not really a deal breaker either as long as it shoots. What was an even better deal is that they were selling for $279 (looking at the price tag on the other Yugo they had in stock) but apparently, this one was never entered into the computer showing that price and still had the CHRISTmas sale price of $199 on it. The lady in the gun department asked if that was the right price and I told her I thought it wasn't and sure enough, it should have been higher but she really appreciated the military and sold it to me for the $199 price so needless to say, I didn't even bother to ask about a military discount! Got her back that afternoon and spent several hours and about half a bottle of mineral spirits cleaning the cosmoline off and gave her a test fire that night blasting 10 rounds into the hills here (gotta love the open spaces of Wyoming where you can do that) without any problems. The biggest problem I've heard about Yugo SKS rifles is the gas valve if corroded can cause function problems but this one had an excellent valve in it so there were no problems with it's function at all. The weather today was windy and cold so I haven't had a chance to put her on paper to see how she groups but the bore was also in excellent condition so I have high hopes in the accuracy department as soon as I get a chance to shoot it for groups. The one thing about the Yugo is she is much more nose-heavy than the Chinese or Russian models. This is due to the extra weight of the gas valve, grenade launcher and folding grenade sights adding extra weight for a neat but useless feature. Not taking those parts off mind you since that's the cool historical features of the Yugo models but just to make you aware that they are a little heavier than the other models. One other word of warning about Yugos, with the exception of the very late models, their barrels are NOT chrome lined. If you shoot corrosive ammo through them, clean them ASAP to prevent corrosion. For me, that's not a deal breaker since my Mosin-Nagants are the same way and it's not really an issue. It's just that they are not nearly as forgiving when it comes to neglecting their cleaning.
So that's where my SKS collection stands for now. There are 2 other models I want to add to the collection in the future and that would be an Albanian SKS simply because it's different than the other East block and Chinese models with it's longer handguard and stock. Something that just stands out I guess. The other model I want to add one of these days is the Chinese Paratrooper model. These are the one with a shorter barrel and shorter spike bayonet. They were never really military issue, instead just a rifle they cranked out for the US commercial market but again, much like the Albanian models, it's just something different that I would like to add to the collection.
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January 11th, 2012, 09:41 PM
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#63 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas
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where are these cheap sks rifles that were mentioned at the beginning of this thread?
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January 11th, 2012, 09:50 PM
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#64 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: AFSOC country....again....
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In Canada and in days long gone down here in the States.
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January 12th, 2012, 04:56 AM
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#65 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dixie
Posts: 1,834
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Originally Posted by CATM Marine  Yeah, the SKS rifles are a pretty decent rifle for what they are. No, they're not going to replace my M1As, or FALs as my weapon of choice but they are still a pretty decent deal.
I started out years ago with a Chinese SKS that I picked up for $90. Yeah, missed out on the $75 SKS days but still $90 wasn't too bad. I must confess to an act of quasi-bubbaism in that the stock wasn't that great and started to the finish seemed to be flaking off it so I replaced it with a fiberglass jungle stock that is still on it to this day. Better stock IMHO but I did make sure to keep the original around though. She's probably the lightest and the spike bayonet also makes her the sleekest SKS I have but I did have a slight problem with it though. The bayonet when folded wouldn't lock up quite high enough and allowed the point of the bayonet a good oppertunity to snag on my hand if I wasn't careful. However, a couple whacks with a chisel on the side of the collar raised enough of a bur that now she folds up tight and out of the way. The other issue (perhaps) is that unlike my other SKS rifles, the barrel is a pinned version. Some will claim that this isn't as desireable as a screwed in barrel and it probably isn't but it also has not shown to be a detriment to accuracy or reliability.
A few years later, I came across a Russian model for $200 that I snatched up. Odd thing about this one is that there is no date stamp on it anywhere which is strange but from what I have learned, may indicate it to be a '55 or '56 model. The other thing about it is that I can't find any stamps or other markings to indicate that it was a re-arsenal job either. Now granted I'm more familiar with Mosin-Nagant markings but unless they changed those markings, this one may be original and all matching. Out of my SKS collection, this one is has the best finish and attention to detail on it so that is a definate plus. However, with the blade bayonet that the Russians used, it's not as sleek as the Chinese version but it's not really a deal breaker, I just like the looks of the spike bayonet better.
My last SKS was bought just yesterday over at the Cabela's store in Sidney. This time I managed to pick up a 1969 vintage (sort of like yours truely) Yugo M59/66A1 in excellent condition. This one appears to have been re-arsenaled but that's not really a deal breaker either as long as it shoots. What was an even better deal is that they were selling for $279 (looking at the price tag on the other Yugo they had in stock) but apparently, this one was never entered into the computer showing that price and still had the CHRISTmas sale price of $199 on it. The lady in the gun department asked if that was the right price and I told her I thought it wasn't and sure enough, it should have been higher but she really appreciated the military and sold it to me for the $199 price so needless to say, I didn't even bother to ask about a military discount! Got her back that afternoon and spent several hours and about half a bottle of mineral spirits cleaning the cosmoline off and gave her a test fire that night blasting 10 rounds into the hills here (gotta love the open spaces of Wyoming where you can do that) without any problems. The biggest problem I've heard about Yugo SKS rifles is the gas valve if corroded can cause function problems but this one had an excellent valve in it so there were no problems with it's function at all. The weather today was windy and cold so I haven't had a chance to put her on paper to see how she groups but the bore was also in excellent condition so I have high hopes in the accuracy department as soon as I get a chance to shoot it for groups. The one thing about the Yugo is she is much more nose-heavy than the Chinese or Russian models. This is due to the extra weight of the gas valve, grenade launcher and folding grenade sights adding extra weight for a neat but useless feature. Not taking those parts off mind you since that's the cool historical features of the Yugo models but just to make you aware that they are a little heavier than the other models. One other word of warning about Yugos, with the exception of the very late models, their barrels are NOT chrome lined. If you shoot corrosive ammo through them, clean them ASAP to prevent corrosion. For me, that's not a deal breaker since my Mosin-Nagants are the same way and it's not really an issue. It's just that they are not nearly as forgiving when it comes to neglecting their cleaning.
So that's where my SKS collection stands for now. There are 2 other models I want to add to the collection in the future and that would be an Albanian SKS simply because it's different than the other East block and Chinese models with it's longer handguard and stock. Something that just stands out I guess. The other model I want to add one of these days is the Chinese Paratrooper model. These are the one with a shorter barrel and shorter spike bayonet. They were never really military issue, instead just a rifle they cranked out for the US commercial market but again, much like the Albanian models, it's just something different that I would like to add to the collection. | You have probably missed the boat on the Albanians, that is unless you get very lucky. They were imported about ten years back and they are the scarcest of the worlds SKS rifles. IIRC there were only around 17K of them manufactured with all but 6K of them being destroyed.
I bought a Albanian SKS back when they first came into this country from AIM Surplus and it is a unique piece of history.
For more details see links http://www.cruffler.com/Features/APR...-April-02.html http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_milit..._albanian.html
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January 12th, 2012, 06:39 AM
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#66 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kentucky
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I bought a Russian SKS in the mid-90s for $150. I haven't shot it a lot but it is fun to shoot and has reliably handled the cheapest dirtiest ammo money can buy. My b-i-l has a scoped Yugo that is surprisingly accurate.
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February 6th, 2012, 01:57 PM
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#67 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
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The sks was my first firearm. It was a Yugo. I removed the magazine and put a detachable 30 rounder on there worked great. Then i made it 922r compliant (which is just a scam to make u buy replacement parts). It was a fantastic gun.
When you get it , strip it down all the way and use solvent and get EVERY LAST bit of cosmoline out of there if you want it to be accurate and reliable. If you wanna let it sit on the shelf leave the cosmoline until your ready to start shooting it.
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February 20th, 2012, 09:08 PM
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#68 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texas
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sorry double posted
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February 21st, 2012, 04:41 AM
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#69 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coastal NC
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Originally Posted by GunOwningGeek Sweets, I had the same "no manual" problem with my SKS. I had a manual on order, which was a translation of the original Russian one. It was ok as far as technical stuff goes but really cool just from a history standpoint.
But what helped me break it down to de-cosmo it was the website surplusrifle.com . ...now my internet is pretty crappy so hopefully it's just me, but the site seems to be down unfortunately.
I've had zero problems in that regard with my Yugo. My Moisin Nagant on the other hand is IMPOSSIBLE with the stripper clips. | The website is down but the forums are not. If you go there and look around there is a link to the forum, but it is cached.
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February 21st, 2012, 05:03 AM
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#70 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: PNW
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Yeah, I not only have the reprint manual but an updated manaul by maybe Kunhausen? Hafta look when I get off duty and go home.................
The book is called "The SKS Carbine (CKC45g) by Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer, ISBN 1-882391-14-4
Last edited by mercman; February 21st, 2012 at 03:10 PM.
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March 24th, 2012, 07:26 PM
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#71 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: USA
Posts: 43
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Originally Posted by mercman Yeah, I not only have the reprint manual but an updated manaul by maybe Kunhausen? Hafta look when I get off duty and go home.................
The book is called "The SKS Carbine (CKC45g) by Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer, ISBN 1-882391-14-4 | It can be found here: https://www.northcapepubs.com/
Or they could just go for the reprinted manual by ATI at CDT (CheaperThanDirt) for about $3.
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March 24th, 2012, 08:23 PM
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#72 | | Squad Leader
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West coast
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They got a bunch of cool guns up in Canada that we can't get here (anymore) like real Vz-58, cheap Chinese M-14 clones.. and such... BUT the Ammo and accessories price are very high... ammo is very pricey.. and they have a bunch of gay laws... like 5 round magazines..for semi autos..and restricted gun can only go directly to the designated rifle range and back home, no stopping for a beer or carton of milk on the way home.. same with handguns.. too bad hell they only got 35 million people.. and a crap load of landmass ..California has more illegal Mexicans than that..hell we could take over Canada with our fruit pickers alone... maybe we could just anex Canada and solve our energy problems over night... they got a bunch of oil.. but pay higher taxes and gas prices that we do...and just think of all the cheap SKS we could get...in the process.... B2B
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April 3rd, 2012, 09:36 PM
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#73 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Base of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by Bolt2bounce ..... hell they only got 35 million people.. and a crap load of landmass ..California has more illegal Mexicans than that..hell we could take over Canada with our fruit pickers alone... maybe we could just anex Canada and solve our energy problems over night... they got a bunch of oil.. but pay higher taxes and gas prices that we do...and just think of all the cheap SKS we could get...in the process.... B2B |
OMG I was rolling off my chair laughing at that!  
And of all the SKS I have owned, 2 really stick out to me. (and I kick myself for selling) A '54 Russian, and the Norinco shorty. Can't remember the # Type 56 or something. I do miss that one.
Cheap, reliable, and easy to shoot.
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April 4th, 2012, 03:16 AM
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#74 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South of I-10
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Originally Posted by The Cat Where are you??? 1989???. | HaHa, thats what I thought. I still have my Norinco SKS from those days. I used to think it was crude until the Yugos came along. They are great and I dont every recall any type of malfunction no matter the ammo in the 20 years Ive owned it. Get one, they are good cheap fun.
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April 4th, 2012, 01:33 PM
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#75 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by Bolt2bounce than that..hell we could take over Canada with our fruit pickers alone... maybe we could just anex Canada and solve our energy problems over night... B2B | Hmmm... that's almost exactly what Thomas Jefferson said about Canada away back in 1812. How did that war work out for you again??
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