M14 Forum

mtbikerwvu

I bought this one about a year ago as a fun shooter and it has turned out to be one of the best semi auto battle rifles I have ever shot. I would love to hear others opinions. Thanks!

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Phinehas

That, and it's next of kin the Swedish Lungman, are among some of the most accurate shoulder fired military rifles ever made.

Just my opinion of course.

Bolt2bounce

I have one, they are nice to shoot because they are heavy with a muzzle break, very low recoil.. I had one years ago but I sold it as QUALITY ammo was hard to find at the time. I missed it so I get another one.. a few years ago. I've never seen a scoped one.. B2B

Swamp Rat

I see one at the gun shows I frequent in the area. Always about $100 or so over my limit.

mtbikerwvu

The mount was on it with a 1913 style base but no scope. The Harris bipod goes on with no modifications. The lop seems short, built for small Egyptian guys I guess. I cannot imagine carrying this gun through the desert to fight the Israelis being a 5 foot tall Egyptian infantryman. It rivals the M14 for weight and may be a tad heavier.

BigBill

I had 6 of these at onetime and i have 5 left in the blackhole in the safe. A few years back these were rare and chances of finding one was slim to none. Then someone posted an out of battery firing and all of a sudden after a few more accidents these were being sold off. Its not a so called out of battery firing i figured out. If you do not adgust the gas valve to the ammo your using and the gas valve is all the way open the bolt carrier can pull the breech open as the bullet passes the gas port and the bullet hasn't reached the muzzle yet letting the shooter get hit with the 50k psi of breech pressure. If the ammo is hotter its even worse even the mags have been blown out and the stocks cracked too. The moral of the story is if we keep the gas valve on the lower side adjusted correctly to the ammo were shooting its a great weapon. I'm seeing these hitting $700 now. I believe the swede ljungman is higher too and the rasheed is around $600 + too.

Adjusting the gas valve on the egyptian 8mm mauser Hakim;

You turn it all the way clockwise till its closed. Then open it counter clockwise to the first click/detent. Load one round in the mag and close the bolt carrier. Then fire the gun. If the bolt carrier locks open "last round fired empty mag" your ok. But then i load two or three rounds and fire them. If it cycles ok your good to go, if not and its sluggish when it cycles you may need to open it to the second click on the gas valve. I'll say my experience with the hakims the first click open from fully closed seems to work 99.99% of the time but it also depends on what ammo your using too.

Freeing stuck gas valve;

I try to use PB blaster or WD40 but some gas adjustment screws can be so stuck i use a little heat as a last resort just under the flare/top on the side of the gas adjustment block. Just a little heat from a low flame on a little propane torch will do the trick "do not over heat it". Once its free clean the port from all the residue and i apply moly anti seeze on the gas adjustment screw and assemble it without the lock to get the moly into the threads. Then i wipe out the excess moly and put a tad more on the adjustment screw and assemble it.
If its free to turn already then disassemble it and moly it up before it gets stuck.

At the sametime remove the rear safety block to clean out the sand thats in it. I have found sand in this block about 95% of the time in my hakims.

Also make sure the three spacers between the receiver and the trigger guard are there too. I have found these missing too. I just make them out of steel tubing that the screws will fit inside it. I found these spacers missing on most of my hakims its usually the center one.

Shooting the hotter Turkish 8mm mauser ammo;

I do not shoot the hotter turkish ammo. But some have done it. Some put two extra adjustment detents/slots on the lower side on the gas port block so it can be adjusted and locked even lower on the gas port. This allows less gas pressure into the system. But i believe the burn rate on the turkish 8mm mauser ammo is wrong for the cyclie timing semi auto action. I also know of some changing the weight of the charge in the turkish ammo too so they could shoot it too. I am not recommending either of the two processes nor the shooting of the turkish 8mm ammo in our hakims. Do not do it.

There ya go you have all my hakim info, enjoy these awesome rifles; Bill

BTW; I have a scopemount thats a vertical plate that mounts on the side of the receiver. It has the rails for the scope rings sitting vertical too so the rings sit horizontal. The stock needs to be cutout for it to be mounted to the receiver. I would like to scope one of my hakims someday and add the bipod too.

If you think the hakim is heavy with the orginal 10rd mag you should try one of those after market 25rd mags in it. It gets really heavy then. They look neat but thats about it. I'm just not into them because of the added weight.

Someday when i can post pics again i'll post the pics of my egyptian hakim, my swedish ljungman and my egyptian rasheed together they make a nice family pic. They say the rasheed is suppose to be one of the best military rifles in 7,62x39. (quality). The action on all three of these to me is simple. I think its more simple than an ak to clean. I'm rather still fond of the tilting bolt over the rotating bolt.

Another fun gun to shoot is the french mas 49/56 commando rifle in 7,5mm french or in 308 but thats another post.

mtbikerwvu

I have read that the 7 o'clock position is the where you want it. I have not messed with mine and it shoots and cycles everytime. When I read that 7 o'clock position I went and checked mine and that is exactly where it was. I shoot my own reloads with 150 grain Hornady soft points. Accuracy is ok but the 150 8mm bullet is short and stubby. What was the military loading of the Egptians for this round? I stay away from the military 8mm surplus as most around here is corrosive and can't be good for semi autos.

BigBill

For the top accurate military rifles i think the bolt actions are more accurate. The swiss k31 in 7,5mm swiss(308"), the swedish 6,5mm mauser (264") and the finnish mosins M24, M27, M39's 7,62mm are pretty much equal but don't sell some of the russian mosins short on accuracy also. Some of these russian gals can be really accurate too. There's a guy on you tube making a 300yd shot with the orginal iron sights on the russian mosins. The taliban was firing on the russians during there war with the old mosins/britt rifles from high above on the ridges on the mountains, the russians were out gunned by these old rifles making long distance shots. Bill

BigBill

I go one click open from fully closed that seems the norm were they function safe at. It also depends on what ammo your using too. This 8mm ammo new or surplus is all different. I never go by how far the empty, fired case is thrown too.

One hakim i tried the 170gr PMC ammo at 100yds and she printed about a 2" to 3" group with it at 100yds. For there age and wear thats not bad considering they were played with in the sand box too.

If you see an egyptain 8mm hakim for sale and want it grab it. Some can be really crusty but they do clean up good. If you need any help just ask here one of us can help you with it or any other surplus military gun. Feel free to ask.

MJ1

I see them at the range every so often, I have never fired them because they are so clean now and I may never shoot them but use them for research and photos.

BigBill

Where's the egyptian rasheed???

BigBill

Well i'm down to 4 hakims left. One is a complete barreled receiver i'd like to make into a hakim 8mm carbine someday.

The rasheed using the same swedish design is suppose to be one of the finest semi auto's in 7,62x39 they say. I have one along with a swede ljungman but i never shot them yet. I always shoot the 8mm hakim on every trip to the range.

mtbikerwvu

I would sell mine if anyone is interested PM me.

KYShooter

I had one many years ago when you could buy them for under $100. Never could warm up to the thing and was happy to part with it.

grndpndr

Does that ever bring back memorys! A good friend(deceased) was into somewhat off the beaten path military firearms, this some 25yrs ago.Among his prizes which I didnt 5recognize as such at the time was an 8mm egyptian Hakim, 8mm FN49(excellent metal-bore)and finally a czech 7.62x45 CZ52 type of carbine.I doubt the 7.62x45 was egyptian,I would assume an egyptian rasheed would be chambered in 7.62x39.As far as the 7.62x45 cartridge you could tell the difference as far as the extra bit of bullet wieght and velocity versus 7.62x39,the vweapon itself despites its well worn condition and poor ammunition was still relatively accurate and reliable,the gas system function is still a mystery.The Hakim..now that was a
hazard to eardrums everywhere.Made the mistake of standing to the rear about 3ft approx 45degrees from muzzle.caught the full backblast from the muzzlebreak.had to return home sick to my stomach from the muzzle blast w/o earplugs.never made the same mistake.I traded him out of the FN 49,what can I say,FN manufacture,reblued exc metal/ bore.Replacement hardwood stock and buttplate unfortunately.But with the short time I owned it I was very impressed.fact i wish I still owned it,traded for a Bushy lower
around the late 80s so I had about $100 in it after the purchase price 10% order fee and tax.