This is a discussion on WWII Marine Raider Bowie within the Edged Weapons forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Anybody own a Collins #18 Marine Raider Bowie with green or greenish black horn handle and the Collins Sword Stamp tang? Would love to see ...
What do you like about it and why? They're on ebay for around $65, pretty cheap date. How long have you had it? The scabbard looks a mite cheesy. From the pics it doesn't look like you've used it much! Not trying to be rude-
Last edited by DaveH; October 5th, 2010 at 09:09 AM.
I had an original black-gripped Raider bowie a few years ago. They're pretty cool, but the blades were quite thin and it didn't seem to me that would stand much abuse. They're out there and they aren't really all that expensive. Most of the later ones were used in aircrew survival kits. The green horn ones are pretty pricey.
Based on Azerious85s recommendation- and the price- I decided to buy one of those Ontario Raider Bowies. I'm back on here to give you a report on it. I looked at them on ebay and found a factory 2nd that I won for $39.95- then had to pay $15 shipping on top. I figured I could risk that amount. 1st- it is a big, heavy knife. I show it in the attached pic below a standard 8" Randall #1, makes the Randall look small. Made out of 1/4" stock, it is far more substantial than the original, with a very similiar shape to the blade. It comes very sharp, a few passes with my kitchen steel touched it up even more. The entire blade is coated, some type of teflon or something close to that. The grip is large and pretty comfy, with the texture of any rubber Hogue grip you've ever touched, but not the give. Big, thick oval steel crossguard. The sheath is way cheesy. It comes with a leg tie-down off the sheath and a "lanyard" hanging from the grip. Both are just shoestrings, based on the plastic tips on the lace just as you see on your dress shoes. The sheath is made from a strip of leather on the back and cordura on the front. Check the pic above on azerious' comment. I could see the tip of this knife being easily broken off if you try to pry with it, it is very sharp and thin. Otherwise, this would be a great knife for chopping. You get what you pay for these days for the most part, and this is a very cheap knife, moneywise. I could not find whatever defect made this into a factory 2nd. It has a 2 branded into the plastic butt end of the grip. It says USA on it so I guess it was not imported. It is one of Ontarios "Spec Plus" series. I sure would not want to get poked with it- or drop it on my foot.
Last edited by DaveH; October 15th, 2010 at 07:36 PM.
the pic above that i posted is when i first got mine 4 years ago....it has been punished more than any knife i own, and has ALWAYS asked for more. the steel is 1095 carbon and is very tough. the tip is not as fragile as you might think, they heat-treat these knives very well i will post pics of my heavy use raider here shortly. yes the sheath is cheesy, hence the low price...these are discontinued now for the new generation Ontario knives so get em while you can. it is also a full tang. remember not all "real use" knives need be >$400. you can have 8 of these that will last you and your great grandkids lifetime for the cost of other high dollar "tough" knives. just saying lol.
oh and your factory second is considered a second due to either an uneven finish line on the blade, crooked trademark stamp on blade above hilt, or slightly uneven edge, the latter of the 3 being the most rare "second"
When this knife is in your hand it has some serious "Heft/Authority" to it for sure
I completely agree with your last statement azerious. I'm enjoying it as we speak. It is very blade-heavy, and if you do any number of Hock Hochheim knife drills, you'll think you're lifting weights. I think it is worth more than the price tag, but not realistic to carry it.
I think the only real shortcoming beyond its size is the sheath. I may have decent sheath made for it- it is that good. Note that the finish on my blade is different from yours. The coating on mine is textured, while yours almost looks like a satin blueing. I think that this knife is worth more than the relative pennies you pay for it. . Good call azerious.
My father, A captain with the 3RD Field Hospital (Rest in Peace)-brought back a Green Horned handle Collins Bowie from WW2. It sat with all of his other bring backs for years in our home. What a beautiful knife. My brother decided to take it to medical school(Late 70's) in the Domician Republic and LOST IT. All I can say is Forgetaboutit!!!!