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Old October 1st, 2016, 09:25 AM   #1
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Is My Bayonet M7 Fake?

Hi, i bought this U.S. Bayonet M7 days ago, i noticed there is something different from my friend's M7. I have no idea how to tell if this is a fake one or genuine one. Would anyone help me? Thank you guys!

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I would hope that the forth picture reads "Imperial", for Imperial Knife manufacturer of the M7 bayonet... But their are a lot better bayonet collectors on this Forum that would know if it's real or a remake.



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Looks 100% correct to me. Via the runout on the main bevel being radius in an arc as opposed to the nearly 90 degree termination common on most earlier production, I'd say your bayonet was from the 1976 Imperial contract or later.
Oh, and I'll add that the PWH marked M8A1 scabbard is period correct too.

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Ditto on everything that's been said. The original sheaths are becoming more valuable than the bayonets nowadays.

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I would hope that the forth picture reads "Imperial", for Imperial Knife manufacturer of the M7 bayonet... But their are a lot better bayonet collectors on this Forum that would know if it's real or a remake.


Yes, it marks "Imperial". Would you please check the first picture, the place i marked in red circle there should be "A", but my M7 has such a strange engrave which looks like an uncompleted "A". I checked in ebay, i found some imperial M7 engraved "A" at that place. Do you know why?

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You see the above pictures, the first one i found on ebay, there is a mark "A", but my M7 has a strange mark looks like an uncompleted "A".


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The question about what the different letters seen in that location on some bayonet tangs means seems to remain unanswered at this point. I don't use it for determining the source of the bayonet at this point.

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The question about what the different letters seen in that location on some bayonet tangs means seems to remain unanswered at this point. I don't use it for determining the source of the bayonet at this point.
Thank you buddy! I have another question,is the 90 degree runout BOC M7 better/more valuable than the long slope Imperial one? The first one in the the following picture is best right?

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Ow! Your asking me a good question that on the surface seems straight forward enough. It does lead to opening a can of worms though.
People have different reasons for collecting things. No good way to say for certain that one reason is best.
Some people collect M7's with a preference to their connection to the Vietnam War, and are only really interested in the one's that are period correct for that. Others may be interested in bayonets that represent Government contract items, and that would be inclusive of the Vietnam time period examples and others that were made afterward. Others have different criteria than those.
There are Imperial M7's with 90 degree runouts. As far as I know at this time the earliest contract from the Government for Imperial has a delivery date of 1973 and the next 1976.
The Government made an official change to the M7 blade runout in 1974. This is generally considered the start time for the radius runout. However, there are good reasons to consider that the Imperial 1976 contract had M7's with the near 90 degree runout too. Also, there are examples of many types of bayonet blades having radius runouts before this time. To make matters worse, many Government contractors seem to have switched back to the near 90 degree runout by the late 80's and into this century. Seems like we never really get to have things as simple as we'd like.

IMHO, if I was looking to add a MILPAR M7 Government contract bayonet to my collection, I'd stick with an example that had the near 90 degree runout. It's generally considered that the MILPARS with a sloping runout were likely made with leftover parts from a third party.
OBTW, IMHO, I'd consider the first two blades on the left in the picture you provided above as different examples of "near 90 degree runout" blades.

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