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Old March 26th, 2016, 03:35 AM   #1
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Dear friends, in addition to love my Springfield M1A NM and my other American rifles, I also like the good knives. I have some that I used me to cut my cheese (you know, renowned food in my country ...). I also have a KA BAR USMC; I bought new a few years ago. This one does good to me, just the pleasure of having. I wonder though if the current quality of manufacture of this knife is the same as those made for the army
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Old March 26th, 2016, 06:43 AM   #2
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I think the only current military contract for the KaBar style Mark II knife is the Ontario Knife Co. Past contracts were Ka-Bar, Camillus,Pal, and the very rare Robeson Shuredge during WW II. In the '60s through the '70s they were Camillus, Ontario, and the short lived Connetta. Ontario is making a new USMC combat knife called OKC 3S for the Marines. It has a longer blade with serrations and a bayonet mount, very cool.

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Old March 26th, 2016, 08:51 AM   #3
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I think the only current military contract for the KaBar style Mark II knife is the Ontario Knife Co. Past contracts were Ka-Bar, Camillus,Pal, and the very rare Robeson Shuredge during WW II. In the '60s through the '70s they were Camillus, Ontario, and the short lived Connetta. Ontario is making a new USMC combat knife called OKC 3S for the Marines. It has a longer blade with serrations and a bayonet mount, very cool.
The 1219C2/Mark2/Fighting-Utility knife. The WW2 contractors were Camillus Cutlery Co, Union Cutlery Co. (what would later become KABAR in 1952), Robeson Cutlery Co. and PAL Cutlery Co.
There were no Korean War contracts, as Korean War GI's were issued WW2 knives from government stores. There were no new contracts until 1960 for this pattern knife. VietNam era contractors were Utica Cutlery Co.,Conetta Cutlery Co.,and Camillus Cutlery Co.. Post VietNam contractors were Camillus (1974-1989) M.S.I (very few) and Ontario (1980 to date).

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Old March 26th, 2016, 09:10 AM   #4
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I wonder though if the current quality of manufacture of this knife is the same as those made for the army
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I haven't examined new production of this pattern. My only non-GI version is an early 80's private purchase KABAR USMC. It is a quality knife. The painted finish looks to be a baked on/powdercoat black. The Gov contract knives were either blued, in the white, (both early on) or parkerized.

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Ontario is making a new USMC combat knife called OKC 3S for the Marines. It has a longer blade with serrations and a bayonet mount, very cool.
I collect bayonets and have several modern ones, over a dozen M9's and M11 EOD bayonets, but my SHTF fighting knife that's strapped to my bug out bag is a contract issued OKC 3S, that knife is just bad ass and mounts to several of my weapons.


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Greyson nailed the chronology very well. Although there are a couple of examples, (so far fewer than the MSI marked knives), that can't be accounted for and don't seem to be G.I. bought turn-ins to avoid being fined.

The re-introduced KA-BAR starting in 1976 and continuing to today is a solid knife. While there are a few small details that aren't matching the current Government specification, MIL-DTL-20277J, the current knife is worthy of it's 1219C2 heritage. The CroVan steel is almost indistinguishable from the now lusted after Camillus made Carbon-V trade marked product. A lot of these knives have gone to War in the last 35 years as private purchase knives.

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FR, and what cheese do you cut with your KA BAR, I really like good cheese, perhaps a new sticky… "Cheese we cut with KAY BARs". I am enjoying some now. Two thumbs up.
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Old March 26th, 2016, 12:18 PM   #8
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FR, and what cheese do you cut with your KA BAR, I really like good cheese, perhaps a new sticky… "Cheese we cut with KAY BARs". I am enjoying some now. Two thumbs up.
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Ok very funny, I'll think about it, thanks

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I'm in Paris fairly often. Good food and good folks.

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Old March 27th, 2016, 01:44 AM   #10
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The 1219C2/Mark2/Fighting-Utility knife. The WW2 contractors were Camillus Cutlery Co, Union Cutlery Co. (what would later become KABAR in 1952), Robeson Cutlery Co. and PAL Cutlery Co.
There were no Korean War contracts, as Korean War GI's were issued WW2 knives from government stores. There were no new contracts until 1960 for this pattern knife. VietNam era contractors were Utica Cutlery Co.,Conetta Cutlery Co.,and Camillus Cutlery Co.. Post VietNam contractors were Camillus (1974-1989) M.S.I (very few) and Ontario (1980 to date).
Isn't that what I said?

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Old March 27th, 2016, 06:55 AM   #11
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Isn't that what I said?
Pretty much, but no mention of Utica Cutlery, or M.S.I, and Ontario wasn't on board in the 60's and 70's.
I just completed the list and put them in the proper time periods...

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Old March 27th, 2016, 07:29 AM   #12
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French Ranger,

Glad you have your Ka-Bar "cheese cutter"! I carried one for my entire Marine Corps Career and never found it lacking. Used it for everything from digger holes, cutting open supplies, and everything else a good knife design does.

Passed mine on to a young man who joined the Corps...so it could continue to serve.

Enjoy your Ka-Bar.

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Old March 27th, 2016, 10:33 AM   #13
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French Ranger,

Glad you have your Ka-Bar "cheese cutter"! I carried one for my entire Marine Corps Career and never found it lacking. Used it for everything from digger holes, cutting open supplies, and everything else a good knife design does.

Passed mine on to a young man who joined the Corps...so it could continue to serve.

Enjoy your Ka-Bar.

Semper Fi,

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Thank you, but I do not dare use my KA BAR just to cut the cheese, it would not be correct. To cut the cheese I have good French pocket knives. I bought my KA BAR in a small French town that you know "SAINTE MERE L'EGLISE." At this place during WWII, US paratroopers "BIG RED ONE" were particularly illustrated. It has been 5 years that I have this knife, it is brand new in its box, never used. I go out from time to time, just for pleasure.

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Old April 2nd, 2016, 05:39 PM   #14
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I love my KaBar. And my Ontario, Aaaand my ESEEs and Bucks and Swiss Armys. Dang it I just love good knives. I don't have one of those fancy Ontario USMC bayonets but I think I might desperately need one. I have a real nice Wicked Edge system and I keep all my cuchillos razor sharp. Not talented enough to use a stone.

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Old April 2nd, 2016, 06:34 PM   #15
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Love me some KA BAR

Love mine.....of course mine says KA-BAR US NAVY.....; )

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The below is an ad pic for the KA BAR beer...but I do have the KA BAR bottle opener! It is a fantastic gift for buddies and a great conservation tool at parties when you whip it out! (the KA BAR that is.....)

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