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Old March 1st, 2016, 11:55 PM   #1
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True M14 bayonet with Kabar blade

I was at a LGS yesterday and saw an really odd M14 bayonet in the case. It had a Kabar blade, but the furniture was all M14.

They guy said it was an experimental blade that did not get adopted.

It is for sale and he wanted $250 for the thing. I offered $200 and he turned me down. I guess it was because I would not buy his Win Model 12 full choke for $595.

PS...I put it to the universe/Gun Gods, and later that day I found the same exact model for $320 in Bullard. The universe/Gun Gods always have my back.

So...what do the M14 gurus have to say about this bayonet? It IS the real deal.

Is it a deal, or should I treat it like the other way overpriced stuff he has in his shop? I did research but nothing came up except this forum and the new Army bayonet.

In his defense it is a cool shop with all manner of old military stuff hanging on the walls and in the cases...all for sale. I just felt the prices were through the roof.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 03:52 AM   #2
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Coles book "Best of US Military knives" shows an M7 experimental bayo but deemed "unsuitable", are you sure the one you saw was M6??
I know replicas of these M7s showed up at gun shows back in the early 80s along with "knuckle" knives with M7 blades.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 11:04 AM   #3
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Conetta made some experimental bayonets with KABAR blades. Sometimes found on EBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-CONETTA-E...QAAOSwnDxUkwNy

SARCO also had some made up from parts, years ago. Not GI tho.

edit: I don't remember if the SARCO humped bayonets were M6 or M7 style. It has been a longtime since I saw one.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:45 PM   #4
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Don't waste your money! And don't believe what someone on eBay tells you.
Conetta never had anything to do with the experimental bayonets from the 70's referred to above. This is confirmed by Pete Conetta.
Also it's been reported that the 40 test knives were marked "Camillus", I'm not sure if that's established for 100% of the blades tested.

All of the Conetta marked blades with either a leather or plastic M7 type handle were made by SARCO after Conetta sold off their surplus stock to SARCO.

Is there a way to get pictures of the knife in the OP?

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I am Leary of prototypes and one of samples with Lazer engraving tables on every street corner

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 03:35 PM   #6
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Don't waste your money! And don't believe what someone on eBay tells you.
Conetta never had anything to do with the experimental bayonets from the 70's referred to above. This is confirmed by Pete Conetta.
Also it's been reported that the 40 test knives were marked "Camillus", I'm not sure if that's established for 100% of the blades tested.

All of the Conetta marked blades with either a leather or plastic M7 type handle were made by SARCO after Conetta sold off their surplus stock to SARCO.

Is there a way to get pictures of the knife in the OP?
Sorry if I misinformed on the Conetta's. I thought I'd read that somewhere as well. Not just EBay. I knew of SARCO put-togethers.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 03:56 PM   #7
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Greyson. I'm sorry if I came across as admonishing you. That wasn't my intent. The giant fish story about the SARCO/ Conetta hybrid bayonets started a long time ago and probably will never go away, regardless of solid research done along the way.
They really aren't anything more than a "fantasy piece" but people routinely pay big bucks for them. "buyer beware!".

This is the first time I've heard of a "KA-BAR" type blade attached to an M6 hilt. I've been collecting U.S. military blades between WW2 and Vietnam for more years than I'd like to admit, and at this point I'd bet on it being another fantasy piece. If one could examine the knife with the handle pieces removed it's likely that all doubt would quickly be removed.

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Greyson. I'm sorry if I came across as admonishing you. That wasn't my intent. The giant fish story about the SARCO/ Conetta hybrid bayonets started a long time ago and probably will never go away, regardless of solid research done along the way.
They really aren't anything more than a "fantasy piece" but people routinely pay big bucks for them. "buyer beware!".

This is the first time I've heard of a "KA-BAR" type blade attached to an M6 hilt. I've been collecting U.S. military blades between WW2 and Vietnam for more years than I'd like to admit, and at this point I'd bet on it being another fantasy piece. If one could examine the knife with the handle pieces removed it's likely that all doubt would quickly be removed.
No sweat sac troop. I didn't take it personally. It's good to straighten out misinformation when you see it. I do the same thing. That's how we keep each other 'honest'...
I also collect fighting knives, and altho I have many pristine examples, I am not really an advanced collector, knowledge-wise..

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Me neither, the more I study the more questions come up. At the end of the day I really can only study a narrow few.
It's just that this one is one of those pet peeves I've developed. It's why I encourage people to invest some of their time and money into research and reference material to keep themselves safe from the scammers and misinformed.

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Sad thing is that if there is a buck to be made, there's someone out there that will make anything you want, and call it whatever you want , and hell even create the B.S. story behind it.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 06:58 PM   #11
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Sometimes that stuff gets started in a reference book. Somewhere something gets misrepresented in publication, and people won't accept another explanation because they have it in a book. All reference material is not without mistakes. Often just copied mistakes from someone earlier in the chain of information, and gleened from one of their 'publications'. Some stuff takes some sorting out and is hard to establish once it is.

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M7 style from Sarco/Conetta. Cost me about $40 back in the day and it's my favorite knife. Carried it in Desert Shield/Storm and OIF.


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That's awesome. . Nice.

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Is that a product improved MK2 sheath?

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Is that a product improved MK2 sheath?
Mine? It's a field expedient Mk2 sheath, Mk2 scabbard with the webbing replaced by a section of M1907 leather rifle sling. Funny thing is the rivets holding the leather sling section to the scabbard look really nicely done. Cheap gun show find.

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