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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:17 PM   #1
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Question what do I have?

Got it for my HR m1. Fits but really sloppy /loose at bbl band. Blade is a little over 9 1/2" to tip. Friend picked a few up at cmp store when he went. Got it for me. Not familier with bayonets but looks cool... so what do I have and is it correct for my HR correct???
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Old January 17th, 2016, 11:22 PM   #2
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US M-1 bayonet for the M-1 Garand, so yes it is correct. The looseness you mentioned is normal. These were made to be fairly loose as a tight fit will adversely effect the bullet's trajectory.
Yours looks to be an Utica Cutlery due to the U C stamp above the flaming bomb (WW II Ordanence Department acceptance stamp). It appears to be in decent but we'll used condition. Replacement grip panels are available through many sources, with a little work and a good Parkerizing you'll have a nice addition to your rifle.

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Old January 18th, 2016, 08:41 AM   #3
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Thanks. Didn't know if the HR being a later production took a different bayonet. The mkiii 303 my grandfather had, the bayonet had a tight fit and was long enough to be a short sword...

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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:36 AM   #4
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The M-1 bayonet was developed during WW II to replace the M-1905 (made for the 1903 Springfield rifle) and M-1942 (wartime production of M-1905) in order to save material as the M1905/1942 was 16 inches long! Many 1905/1942s were cut down to 10 inches while production of the M-1 was started. M-1905/1942s cutdown were typed as the M-1905E1. M-1 and M-1905E1 bayonets can be identified by the "blood grooves". The M-1's groove ends about an inch from the point while the M-1905E1's go out to the point.

The M-1/1905E1 bayonets were mainly issued in the European Theater of Operations because the German S84/98 III bayonet blade for the K98 rifle was 9 3/4 inches long. In the Pacific the M-1905/1942 bayonets were used because the Japanese Type 30 sword bayonet was 16" long.

Original uncut M-1905/1942 bayonets are available but cost $100-200+ depending on condition. Reproduction bayonets are available for around ~$40-100 depending on seller.

Your HRA M-1 was made for the Korean War so the correct bayonets for display are the M-1/1905E1 and the post-Korean War M-5/5A1 series.

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Old January 18th, 2016, 06:07 PM   #5
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Actually by the time IHC and HRA got into production the Korean War was at least mostly over. It ended in July 1953 and during Fiscal 1953 HRA only produced 500 rifles. The correct bayonet for these rifles would be the M5 or M5A1.

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