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Old August 15th, 2015, 07:24 AM   #91
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I have sn 000148 national match, confirmed by Elmer Ballance.

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Old September 29th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #92
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What does "barreled receiver not marked at factory mean?"

If a low receiver is not barrel marked with the devine address is it possible that it still has an original barrel?

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Old September 29th, 2015, 07:26 PM   #93
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What does "barreled receiver not marked at factory mean?"

If a low receiver is not barrel marked with the devine address is it possible that it still has an original barrel?
M1A serial numbers 00172 and 000214 were sold in 1972 to the original owner as receivers with barrels installed. The barrels did not have Texas address markings. I am not implying anything beyond that. The information in this data base is far from complete. I have information on more than 330 Texas era M1A rifles. There were at least 2,700 complete rifles, barreled receivers and stripped receivers shipped from Texas. A rifle may have a low serial number with a barrel lacking an address marking. Was it shipped as a bare receiver or as a barreled receiver? I don't have all the answers. FWIW, I can only confirm two serial numbers leaving Texas with a barrel installed but not marked with an address.

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Old September 29th, 2015, 09:00 PM   #94
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Not a Devine M1A but not sure what I have here.
Only markings on the bbl are S.A..
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Old October 8th, 2015, 01:55 PM   #95
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Picked up 000651 yesterday. DEVINE TEX hand stamped

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I recently acquired serial number 1714. It has an SA bolt, SAK oprod, CA barrel, match sights (no hood rear), bedded stock, screwed and glued gas cylinder, RT 1 BX 210 DEVINE TX one line engraved.

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I recently acquired serial number 1714. It has an SA bolt, SAK oprod, CA barrel, match sights (no hood rear), bedded stock, screwed and glued gas cylinder, RT 1 BX 210 DEVINE TX one line engraved.
Is the stock made of walnut or birch wood? Are the initials stamped in or marked on the stock barrel channel?

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Old January 2nd, 2016, 01:32 AM   #98
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Hi Different
I am away from my collection so I can't be sure, but I think it was a walnut stock, no action/trigger group, op rod modifications. I don't remember anything in the barrel channel like my #1199. When I get back I'll look again.

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Old January 12th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #99
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I'm about to put 000942 on the market. Any interested parties here that would like to get a jump on the crowd, PM me.

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Old January 16th, 2016, 11:30 AM   #100
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Devine 001029

Recently purchased 001029. She is beautifull! NM/USGI, all original all around as far as I can tell- and rarely fired by looking at surfaces of key parts! This is my first M1A (I've many Garands & Carbines!) & first glass-bedded rifle and it is my understanding there is no way to field-strip without ruining the bedding? Is there a way? Is it advisable to "crack" the bedding to do a full inspection and then re-bed? Bbl is Saco, 7-65, NM stamp on top, no other stamps visible at underside of bbl. Could there be a stamp under upper handguard? And a way to get that off w/o pulling the receiver/bbl from stock? I have a Garand stock clip tool. the bedding is yellow. ? well, I've caught M1A-itis just as I caught Garanditis! I got lucky finding this Devine... going for 3rd shoot/sight-in soon. I'm thrilled to be in such company and appreciate all the knowledge & experience here on this site!

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Old January 16th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #101
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Congrats on your find and welcome to the forum. You can remove the action from the bedded stock, you just shouldn't do it any more than necessary as it will loosen the bedding. There have been known to be markings under the handguard. You can remove the handguard w/o removing the action from the stock, but I believe that requires removing the gas plug and gas lock and sliding the gas cylinder forward to get the handguard clip out of the groves on the barrel. Then it will lift off. But it may be epoxied to the front band also, so you might look for that before you try it.

I suggest you start a new thread with pics!

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Recently purchased 001029. She is beautifull! NM/USGI, all original all around as far as I can tell- and rarely fired by looking at surfaces of key parts! This is my first M1A (I've many Garands & Carbines!) & first glass-bedded rifle and it is my understanding there is no way to field-strip without ruining the bedding? Is there a way? Is it advisable to "crack" the bedding to do a full inspection and then re-bed? Bbl is Saco, 7-65, NM stamp on top, no other stamps visible at underside of bbl. Could there be a stamp under upper handguard? And a way to get that off w/o pulling the receiver/bbl from stock? I have a Garand stock clip tool. the bedding is yellow. ? well, I've caught M1A-itis just as I caught Garanditis! I got lucky finding this Devine... going for 3rd shoot/sight-in soon. I'm thrilled to be in such company and appreciate all the knowledge & experience here on this site!
Removing it from the wood doesn't ruin the bedding or require that you re-do the bedding. Doing it constantly will loosen up the bedding. But once in a while won't hurt it. Many people believe it should be stored when not used with the trigger guard unlocked to preserve the bedding. Others don't agree.
With the guard unlocked takes the pressure off the front portion of the bedding and front band. You be the judge.

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Old March 14th, 2016, 05:48 AM   #103
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I recently acquired 002031. I contacted Different about the rifle, here's what he provided from his database (used with permission).
This is what I have on M1A serial number 2031:

It was built by John Holden (an armorer who built match grade rifles for Elmer Ballance) into a match rifle with the following parts: bedded USGI walnut stock, May 1967 Canadian Arsenals NM barrel, TRW bolt, Saco-Lowell operating rod, reamed flash suppressor, match operating rod spring guide, and NM sights. The barrel has a one line Devine Texas address marking consistent with other barrels in this serial number range. The trigger housing has an electropenciled marking, 2031. The stock barrel channel is stamped 2031 J J H.

I hope this helps.

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His database matched up exactly to the current state of the rifle, showing nothing has been altered. I would add that the bolt and 2 magazines (CM) also have electropenciled marking 2031.

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Old March 24th, 2016, 09:01 AM   #104
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Devine M1A

I have a Devine M1A S/N 000291 Address line is RT1 BX 210 Devine TX
All 1 line.
I purchased it in early 1972.
NM Marked barrel. Came with Fiberglass stock and 2 M 14 mags with 291 in what looks like pencil. Numbers on side of mag lock block on back of mag.
Plain brown corrigated box with no paper work.
Dealer received 2 rifles. He kept S/N 000290 for himself.

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Is the stock made of walnut or birch wood? Are the initials stamped in or marked on the stock barrel channel?
Hi different, the stock is beach. The serial number and the initials JJH our stamp in the barrel channel as well.

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