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This is a discussion on Record of Texas M1A Rifles within the Devine M1A forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Hi Different, Figured I might as well add mine to this database listing. I purchased Serial Number 001197 about a year ago. It is also ...


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Old January 5th, 2013, 03:14 PM   #61
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Hi Different,

Figured I might as well add mine to this database listing. I purchased Serial Number 001197 about a year ago. It is also marked "JJH" in the barrel channel.

001197* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped





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Old January 8th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #62
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Nice rifle mine is near 40 numbers of yours . I am in Ohio to. Back in the 1970's these rifles may have been sold at the Ohio Gun Collecter shows in Canton and Columbus by Melvin Smith. And maybe Camp Perry.

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The research is caught up on this thread. Thank you, Gentlemen.

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Sorry for the poor cell phone pics, but here's #302, single line hand stamped "RT I BX2I0 DEVINE TX".
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and #824, single line hand stamped "DEVINE TEX".
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Old January 13th, 2013, 06:45 AM   #66
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I just joined the forum today and am glad to say i own # 000175. with NM barrel. when ever i learn to post photos i will.
short story, My brother bought it in Devine Tx. as he told me that he went there and personnaly picked it from the rack in the barn building.
$ 450.00 out the door with ammo and mags.
My brother is gone now 2yrs. ago. He was in the army 82nd airbourne in the 1950's.

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Thanks Different for your good work :-)

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#589 rifle DEVINE TEX one line hand stamped
#741 rifle DEVINE TEX one line hand stamped

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Old February 5th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #69
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My sources are:

1) my personal observation of rifles
2) Tom Buss 1971 to 1976 OGCA Show newsletters
3) Tom Buss 1971 to 1976 personal notes
4) Photographs of rifle receiver heels and barrel markings
5) Owner purchase receipts
6) Owner reports of their rifles
7) M14 fan reports of rifles they examined
8 ) Online sales ads

Source # 7 accounts for a very small portion of the information. For M1A serial number 001854, I received a private message through this board on 03-01-07 from the owner. We corresponded and he reported the barrel marking listed in the record above. I keep more notes on a spread sheet but I don't disclose the identity of the owners and other details specific to each rifle.
I know of 2 Devine rifles in the later 1800 range. One is close and definitely a Devine, I've known the owner for years.

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and #824, single line hand stamped "DEVINE TEX".
Elmer stamped the "address" at two points on the barrels, either by the gas cylinder or back by the receiver ring, but never both that I know of. The rifles were built as he got to them, not sequentially.

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The information below is a copy of the records I have for Texas M1A rifles. As of 01-19-08, I count 135 Texas era M1A rifles in the .xls file. I've not pasted the three right hand columns of the file so that my sources and the rifle owners maintain their privacy.

Serial No. First Sale Date Original Sale Configuration Barrel Marking # of Lines How marked?
000000* rifle
000001* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000001* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78126 one
000001* rifle
000003* rifle (match)
000007*
000011* rifle
000012* receiver in January 1972
000015* receiver
000017*
000030*
000049* rifle based on 001487
000050*
000065* Dec-71 stripped receiver
000067* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000068*
000070* rifle (M14E2)
000075* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000078* NLT Mar-72
000078* NLT Mar-72
000099* NLT Mar-72
000100* receiver
000126*
000127*
000134* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000172* Apr-72 barreled receiver not stamped at factory
000188* RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000200* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
00020X RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000214* Apr-72 barreled receiver not stamped at factory
000218* rifle Devine address one hand stamped
000222*
000231* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000248* unknown none as of Sep 2001
00027X
000299* rifle RTI BOX 210 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000326* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000345* XX/72
000360* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000377* no address marking on the barrel as of October 2008
00039X rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
000414* XX/72
000440*
000442*
000464* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
00048X rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000505* XX/73 rifle
000510* rifle "Devine address" one
000527* rifle
000529*
000535*
000541*
000564* XX/73 estimated stripped receiver DRW 430 Devine Texas three electropenciled
000567* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000576* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000600*
000627*
000655* rifle DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000689* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000690* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000708* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000710* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
00074X rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000777* rifle DEVINE TEX one
000784*
000812* Jul-73 rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000825* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000850* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
00085X* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000857* rifle DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000908*
000909* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000925* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
000942* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
000943* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000953* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
1000* May to Jul 1973 rifle
001013*
001096* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001097* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001098* rifle TI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001101* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
001119*
001179* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001190*
001193* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001201*
001215* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
001242* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001255*
0013XX rifle "Devine address" one hand stamped
00130X
001322*
001329* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001338* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001339* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001389* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
001422* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one
001434* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
001436*
001487* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001514* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001543* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001544* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001553* receiver most likely
001562* XX/73 estimated rifle
001595* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001691*
001695* Dec-73 rifle
001705* rifle one engraved
001717* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
001722* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001727* Jan-74 stripped receiver
00176X
001820* rifle RTI BX2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001830* rifle
001854* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001885*
001902*
001908*
001931* rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001977* Apr-74 rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001988* Apr-74 barreled receiver
001994* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
002028* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002068* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
00209X* stripped receiver
002127* Apr-74 barreled receiver "Devine address" one
002134* receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002167* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002168* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002282* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002283* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002284* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002293* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002301* barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
00244X* 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
00246X* Sep-74 rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002466* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002484* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002496* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002512* rifle Charles Krause address
002517* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
002571* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
002600* stripped receiver
002606* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one
002658* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002709* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002734* Apr-75 rifle Geneseo Ill one electropenciled
002770* Jul-75 rifle
002774* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002778* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002797* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002808* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002831* Feb-75 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one
002867* May-74 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002874* May-74 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002877* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002884*
002898* XX/74 rifle RTl BOX 338C DEVINE TEX one
002912*
002923* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002964*
002979* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002985* Dec-74 stripped receiver
002990* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002992* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002995* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002996* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002998* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003109* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003124* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003129* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003130* stripped receiver
003139* Oct-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216
003140* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003142* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003159* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003210* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003217* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003270* Nov-74 stripped receiver
003306* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003322* Jan-75 stripped receiver
00356X Apr-75 rifle
003358* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
003573* XX/75 rifle
003719* Sep-75 match rifle
004002* Oct-75
004340* Nov-75 rifle none
004379* Apr-76 stripped receiver
100 has a Racine barrel stamp and was built straight National Match. The Devine rifles were not built sequentially. It is a complete rifle.

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Old February 23rd, 2013, 01:45 PM   #72
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I just purchased 0012XX...2 line hand stamped rt1 bx210 devine TX...has been in same family and stored for near 40 years.

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The information below is a copy of the records I have for Texas M1A rifles. As of 01-19-08, I count 135 Texas era M1A rifles in the .xls file. I've not pasted the three right hand columns of the file so that my sources and the rifle owners maintain their privacy.

Serial No. First Sale Date Original Sale Configuration Barrel Marking # of Lines How marked?
000000* rifle
000001* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000001* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78126 one
000001* rifle
000003* rifle (match)
000007*
000011* rifle
000012* receiver in January 1972
000015* receiver
000017*
000030*
000049* rifle based on 001487
000050*
000065* Dec-71 stripped receiver
000067* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000068*
000070* rifle (M14E2)
000075* rifle L H GUN CO SA TEX 78226 two hand stamped
000078* NLT Mar-72
000078* NLT Mar-72
000099* NLT Mar-72
000100* receiver
000126*
000127*
000134* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000172* Apr-72 barreled receiver not stamped at factory
000188* RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000200* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
00020X RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000214* Apr-72 barreled receiver not stamped at factory
000218* rifle Devine address one hand stamped
000222*
000231* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000248* unknown none as of Sep 2001
00027X
000299* rifle RTI BOX 210 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
000326* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000345* XX/72
000360* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000377* no address marking on the barrel as of October 2008
00039X rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
000414* XX/72
000440*
000442*
000464* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
00048X rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000505* XX/73 rifle
000510* rifle "Devine address" one
000527* rifle
000529*
000535*
000541*
000564* XX/73 estimated stripped receiver DRW 430 Devine Texas three electropenciled
000567* rifle RTI BX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000576* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
000600*
000627*
000655* rifle DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000689* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000690* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000708* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000710* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
00074X rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000777* rifle DEVINE TEX one
000784*
000812* Jul-73 rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000825* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000850* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
00085X* rifle DEVINE TEX one engraved
000857* rifle DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
000908*
000909* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000925* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
000942* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
000943* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
000953* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
1000* May to Jul 1973 rifle
001013*
001096* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001097* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001098* rifle TI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001101* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
001119*
001179* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001190*
001193* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001201*
001215* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
001242* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001255*
0013XX rifle "Devine address" one hand stamped
00130X
001322*
001329* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001338* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001339* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001389* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
001422* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one
001434* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TX two hand stamped
001436*
001487* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001514* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX two hand stamped
001543* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001544* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001553* receiver most likely
001562* XX/73 estimated rifle
001595* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001691*
001695* Dec-73 rifle
001705* rifle one engraved
001717* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one hand stamped
001722* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001727* Jan-74 stripped receiver
00176X
001820* rifle RTI BX2I0 DEVINE TX one hand stamped
001830* rifle
001854* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001885*
001902*
001908*
001931* rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001977* Apr-74 rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
001988* Apr-74 barreled receiver
001994* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX
002028* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002068* rifle RTI BX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
00209X* stripped receiver
002127* Apr-74 barreled receiver "Devine address" one
002134* receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002167* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002168* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002282* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002283* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002284* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002293* Sep-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002301* barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
00244X* 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
00246X* Sep-74 rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002466* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002484* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002496* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002512* rifle Charles Krause address
002517* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
002571* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TX one engraved
002600* stripped receiver
002606* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one
002658* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one engraved
002709* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002734* Apr-75 rifle Geneseo Ill one electropenciled
002770* Jul-75 rifle
002774* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002778* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
002797* rifle RTI BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002808* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002831* Feb-75 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one
002867* May-74 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002874* May-74 rifle RTl BX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002877* rifle RTl BOX 2l0 DEVINE TEX one engraved
002884*
002898* XX/74 rifle RTl BOX 338C DEVINE TEX one
002912*
002923* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002964*
002979* Nov-74 stripped receiver
002985* Dec-74 stripped receiver
002990* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002992* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002995* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002996* Oct-74 barreled receiver
002998* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003109* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003124* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003129* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003130* stripped receiver
003139* Oct-74 barreled receiver 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216
003140* Oct-74 barreled receiver
003142* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003159* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003210* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003217* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003270* Nov-74 stripped receiver
003306* Oct-74 stripped receiver
003322* Jan-75 stripped receiver
00356X Apr-75 rifle
003358* rifle 12106 RADIUM SA TEX 78216 one
003573* XX/75 rifle
003719* Sep-75 match rifle
004002* Oct-75
004340* Nov-75 rifle none
004379* Apr-76 stripped receiver


#100 is a rifle. Built National Match with Racine stamping on the Barrel. He did not build them sequentially. I've seen the pictures.

Sorry about misspelling, old bad habit I picked up from a friennd


#2070 was a rifle, with the original barrel stamped near the receiver ring. I shot it after the barrel had been changed. Wish I'd bought it.


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I just bought number 000320. Never selling ever!!!

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#100 is a NM rifle with the Radium stamp. Not #1.

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