This is a discussion on Record of Texas M1A Rifles within the Devine M1A forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; I have serial # 001255 . I was told by sa that this is a devine rifle. I am new to this forum and didn't ...
I have serial # 001255 . I was told by sa that this is a devine rifle. I am new to this forum and didn't know until recently about the following of devine rifles. Trying to find more info on the rifle. What is it exactly i should look for?
I dont know if this is helpful or not but I just found #001826. A guy I know has had it since the 80's. I didnt notice too many of the markings on it when he showed it to me, but I did snap a pic of it. He has 3 more M1A's that I havent seen yet as well.
Hi I used to own one of the rifles on your list. I purchases it from a dealer who ordered it in for a customer in the 70s then purchased it back from him in the 80s for is peronal collection. I got it in 2006. It had NM trw barrel bolt oprod winchester stock. I posted about it on a forum and another member contacted me offering me more then i paid for it. I sold it! after he received it I got an angry mesage that it was a fake that the NM was faked and the devine address was hand stamped in the wrong place. I called my dealer that sold it to me and he swore it was real because he had ordered it in new for the customer in the 70s and during that time no one was faking devinesat that time. So i sent him his money back. then he said even though i still owned the gun he could not ship it to me because i was not a FFL. so finally my FFL agreed to recieve it and sell it back to me for $1. After he recieve my shipping information he emailed me asking what was the least I would take for it. By that time I was so sick of all of the headach that i let it go $500 less then the origanal sale price just to get it over with . i have often wondered if it was fake or real, if the buyer just did not know what he was looking at or if he was just trying to screw me and now i see it on this authentacation list i guess I will never know for sure.
My M1A is S/N 002839. I bought it from the original owner in 1976 or 1977. It is a standard rifle with a NM mark on top of the barrel. The barrel is also marked P SAK 7791362-9-69-8037299 on the right side of the barrel in front of the chamber. It does not have the Devine Texas markings anywhere. It has a standard flash suppresser, SA Bolt, SA Opp Rod and a HR Trigger Group and a fiberglass stock. I would like to find out more about if it was actually built by Elmer Balance in Devine. From the research Iíve done so far I think he stopped assembling rifles in the 0027XX range.
My M1A is S/N 002839. I bought it from the original owner in 1976 or 1977. It is a standard rifle with a NM mark on top of the barrel. The barrel is also marked P SAK 7791362-9-69-8037299 on the right side of the barrel in front of the chamber. It does not have the Devine Texas markings anywhere. It has a standard flash suppresser, SA Bolt, SA Opp Rod and a HR Trigger Group and a fiberglass stock.
1) my personal observation of rifles
2) Tom Buss 1971 to 1976 OGCA Show newsletters
3) Tom Buss 1971 to 1976 personal notes
4) Photographs of rifle receiver heels and barrel markings
5) Owner purchase receipts
6) Owner reports of their rifles
7) M14 fan reports of rifles they examined
8 ) Online sales ads
Source # 7 accounts for a very small portion of the information. For M1A serial number 001854, I received a private message through this board on 03-01-07 from the owner. We corresponded and he reported the barrel marking listed in the record above. I keep more notes on a spread sheet but I don't disclose the identity of the owners and other details specific to each rifle.
#100 is built USGI NM with a Radium barrel. I know where there's pictures of it and #1.
NM- M1A 00123x range ,two line Devine stamp under gas lug. I have taken this rifle to a very good local smith who has put together 80 M1A's in the last 20 years and he say,s it is the best work ever that he has seen in a Springfield. Of course he say's Devines are good,very good. Ohio is a very rich M1A area for shooting and history of M1A's. I talked to Elmer Ballance himself today about the rifle,nice fellow.
Last edited by jeep; December 30th, 2012 at 10:06 AM.
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