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This is a discussion on Springfield M1A 3 Digit Serial Number Info Rerquested within the Devine M1A forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Great information. And thank you to all. I will call Springfield tomorrow for more info if possible. So no Texas address on barrel. I'm pretty ...


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Old May 30th, 2016, 11:03 PM   #16
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Great information. And thank you to all.
I will call Springfield tomorrow for more info if possible.

So no Texas address on barrel. I'm pretty sure this rifle does not have it.
The barrel is still correct for the age?
I noticed the epoxy on the clips for the heat shield. Is this common?
The gas manifold/transfer does not appear to have the screws through the rear to join the heat shield front anchor to it. But the heat shield is epoxied to it anyways.
Thanks for clearing up what that dimple in the barrel was for.
The trigger unit obviously matches the receiver. Could not find other parts serialized to the receiver. I could certainly accept as offered that maybe this was a well used rifle. Such that the rear sight needed the shim fix due to use versus upgrade. Bolt replaced due to use? Possibly restocked or maybe sold as receiver only?
What about the trigger unit? Could anyone electro pencil that. The serial number actually appears twice in the side. Fewer numbers above and less distinct, but the same last 3.
I have no clue for how long the barrel on it was available for purchase as a replacement. Would that barrel possibly more define an age of this build due to its inclusion?

I am appreciative of the info offered so far.
I have been reading through all the posts in the Devine portion of this forum. I am only at midway on the second page. All of it has made for excellent reading and my understanding has grown considerably.

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Old May 31st, 2016, 06:03 AM   #17
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Did you look closely under the gas plug?


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Old May 31st, 2016, 03:25 PM   #18
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In all those numbers stamped on the barrel, you will see 8-69. The barrel was made in August, 1969. That's just the barrel and does not signify when the rifle was built. However, with such a low serial number, the receiver was made in the 70s. There is a good chance that barrel was brand new old stock when mounted to that receiver.

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Old May 31st, 2016, 03:58 PM   #19
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I see forward of the chamber on the bottom of the barrel F 2 74 stamped.

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Old May 31st, 2016, 09:33 PM   #20
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I see some extensive modifications done to the hammer hooks and trigger. Be very careful when you shoot that rifle until you are confident that the trigger is reliable.

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Old June 1st, 2016, 08:39 AM   #21
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That rifle came out of a time capsule didnt it.

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Old June 1st, 2016, 01:08 PM   #22
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The material used in the bedding appears to be Devcon Epoxy plastic steel which is a material that later came into use mainly by the Marines. The method of bedding showing the full bed down left and right side doesn't appear to be a military glass job as it deviates from the published specs used by the AMTU units. It doesn't appear to have barrel markings in the views that show any part of the under side of the barrel. This appears to be possibly one of the receivers that Springfield in Geneseo may have sold as a stripped receiver after they decided to divest themselves of all their early receivers in the early '80s.

The whole style is not in keeping with those that came out of the Elmer Balance shop in the 70s. Elmer himself has said he never personally built any NM rifles but always farmed them out to AMTU armorers from various places including Lackland, Ft Benning etc and usually traded receivers for the work. Then they came back to get the completed markings and were sold. JJH was just one of many armorers who did work for him. This info in no way infers it's not a good rifle, but it's definitely not one of elmers. The epoxy type that Elmer specified and will always be found on an original rifle is Acra Glas with a reddish brown tint. You will never find the deep gray devcon on an original Texas gun.

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The material used in the bedding appears to be Devcon Epoxy plastic steel which is a material that later came into use mainly by the Marines. The method of bedding showing the full bed down left and right side doesn't appear to be a military glass job as it deviates from the published specs used by the AMTU units. It doesn't appear to have barrel markings in the views that show any part of the under side of the barrel. This appears to be possibly one of the receivers that Springfield in Geneseo may have sold as a stripped receiver after they decided to divest themselves of all their early receivers in the early '80s.

The whole style is not in keeping with those that came out of the Elmer Balance shop in the 70s. Elmer himself has said he never personally built any NM rifles but always farmed them out to AMTU armorers from various places including Lackland, Ft Benning etc and usually traded receivers for the work. Then they came back to get the completed markings and were sold. JJH was just one of many armorers who did work for him. This info in no way infers it's not a good rifle, but it's definitely not one of elmers. The epoxy type that Elmer specified and will always be found on an original rifle is Acra Glas with a reddish brown tint. You will never find the deep gray devcon on an original Texas gun.
An excellent assessment. I greatly appreciate such a thorough effort to answer most if not all obvious signs of at least one individual to accurize.
Based on what I see this work was done by someone familiar with this action type. I have bedded a few actions and can easily note quality work.

This site is filled with what makes the net so awesome. Other gun guys willing to share info if you make it easy for them to do so.

I await a response from Springfield.

I will enjoy any other insights/comments any of you may have regarding this rifle.

Thank you to those of you who took the time to post.

It's very cool for one to have such an early Springfield M1A. No true Devine, but better then stock and in NM configuration. At least somebody's sense of what that should look like.

This rifle must be fired again. It will be.

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Old June 2nd, 2016, 09:25 PM   #24
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Well Mike from Springfield called me back this afternoon.
He explained no way to know how it left from Devine. The records just gave no information for him to relay to me.
Plenty low serial numbered ones with Texas addresses. I can only assume that 919 left as a receiver in all likihood.
I will update this thread with a range report in my effort to be complete and add what I can about this rifle.

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Old June 9th, 2016, 12:13 PM   #25
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Very nice find and great images, too!

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Great info in this thread......rated it "excellent" for the OP and the contributors.

I'd really like to get my hands on a Devine M1A someday.

Thanks for all the eye candy, too, and really nice rifle you have there, Matt.

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Very cool of those of you contributing to this thread and the many thanks I received because of it. Thank you.
I purchased a steel sadlak mount from a member since I can normally shoot sight enhancements a lot better then opens. Just like about anyone can.
I plan to shoot it with some FGM along with some military match I have saved. I will chrono it and complete a full range report.

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Very cool of those of you contributing to this thread and the many thanks I received because of it. Thank you.
I purchased a steel sadlak mount from a member since I can normally shoot sight enhancements a lot better then opens. Just like about anyone can.
I plan to shoot it with some FGM along with some military match I have saved. I will chrono it and complete a full range report.
Keep us posted.

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Old June 15th, 2016, 11:32 PM   #29
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Ordered the SA series of muzzle brake and castle nut tool. Darn, nice set up from Brownells. In a case with the allens.
I'm in a non-flash hider/bayonet attaching State. Won't say which one.
Got the action out so while I have the brake off I am carefully attacking copper. And boy there is copper. One of the most fouled ones I have seen. Using the bore eliminator product which is impressive in how well it lifts it. First patch through and a dark blue. Just pushing through a folded patch wet.
Stripping it all as I plan to re-foul it before going for some groups.

I like big magnification of sight enhancements. I might be compensating for something. Anyways, I plan to mount a Bushnell 6500 4.5-30 off of all things a .22 rimfire I have it on.
Yeah, who does that on a .22. Try it and see just how much fun it is. Pretty awesome to be able to focus down to like 20 yards at 30 times. Funny thing is I have a 10-50 Sightron on another .22. That focuses down also to 25 yards.
I will upload some images of what I am doing for cleaning and the patches.
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Just a quick update...

I mounted the Sadlak steel mount I purchased off another member here. That is an impressive mount. No glass on it yet. Will need to build up the cheek rest area. I have a slip on cheek rest with foam inserts that you can use to adjust the height.
Mounted the Springfield brake. Great product. Plastic reusable case and the castle nut tool included.
I found a old M14 bipod that I have had squirreld away for years. It's a US Military issue with the sling swivel attached. Not a reproduction. I was amazed at what the values on those are. I won't use it but I was pleased it's an original one.

Closer to getting it out to the range.

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