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Old March 28th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #1
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Elmer balance receivers sold to SAI.....

I have heard that Elmer Balance sold out to SAI in the early 70's and they got some of his stripped receivers. Is there any truth to this? And if so, does anyone know how many SAI got? I recently bought a low serial number Springfield M1A and am curious....

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Egan you can call SAI with your serial number to find if it was sent to Elmer. There are numerous threads on this topic here on the forum. Just click on the search function and put in "Elmer Balance" and you will find a lot of info

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I have heard that Elmer Balance sold out to SAI in the early 70's and they got some of his stripped receivers. Is there any truth to this? And if so, does anyone know how many SAI got?
Yes, it is true. I'll check my copy of "M14 Rifle History and Development" later, I believe Lee has something in there on it. BTW, Elmer's last name has 2 Ls, spelled Ballance. Spell correct will "correct" it.

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you can tell if it is a Devine by removing the rear sight

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And what would I be looking for under the rear sight?

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the cut for the spring cover is done differently than any other manufacturer

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Old March 28th, 2016, 07:35 PM   #7
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Looking at Lee 'Different' Emerson's "M14 Rifle History and Development" Fifth Edition, Volume 2, there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer as to how many receivers were aquired by the Reece family when they aquired SAI. Lee says the assets included all of the unused receivers. He also states "The M1A serial number transition from Texas to Illinois occurs from about 002700 to approximately 003300." He then give a number of examples of serial numbers from both locations as to why this is the case. It seems they just didn't go in numerical order in building rifles or selling receivers. H/T Different.

If you want to know the interesting history of the military and civilian M14, I highly recommend Lee's books. He has, and continues to do do extensive research on the subject. I try to post when Lulu.com is having a sale in this thread in case you are interested: M14 Rifle History and Development on sale at Lulu.com

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Also from M14 Rifle History and Development Fifth Edition Volume 2,

"September 21, 1974 - Valley Ordnance recently resumed production of M1A receivers after a six week shutdown period. Production ended the previous month at serial number 003700."

The sale occurred about the first week of November 1974. I think it is safe to assume that receiver serial numbers up to 003700 had shipped to Texas from Valley Ordnance before the Texas company was sold to Bob Reese in Illinois.

The lowest known serial number that shipped from Illinois was 002709. The highest known serial number which shipped from Texas was 003306. My source is the original owner of serial number 003306. There are at least two known Radium (San Antonio) marked barreled receivers / rifles with higher serial numbers (003358 and 003371) that MAY have shipped from Illinois.

So, my guesstimate is 400 to 1000 receivers were part of the inventory that was acquired by the Reese family in November 1974.

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Sounds like mine missed it by a few.... 4438. Good info though, I'll definitely be picking up Lee Emersons books in the near future. Thank you all for the info.

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