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Old March 14th, 2016, 06:15 PM   #1
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The "Golden Era" ????

Can someone please educate me as to exactly what is considered the
"Golden Era " of the M1a and why?

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Old March 14th, 2016, 06:54 PM   #2
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From 1986 /1996 or roughly serial # 40,000 to 100,000 SAI was awash in usgi parts and the receivers were built by Melvin Smith at Valley Ordinance ,those receivers were among the best SAI ever used. These were the years SAI was making it's reputation.

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Old March 14th, 2016, 07:12 PM   #3
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From 1986 /1996 or roughly serial # 40,000 to 100,000 SAI was awash in usgi parts and the receivers were built by Melvin Smith at Valley Ordinance ,those receivers were among the best SAI ever used. These were the years SAI was making it's reputation.
Melvin Smith machined the receivers from the very start of production till July of 1996. His company was Valley Ordnance in Wilkes Barre PA. Gray-Syracuse of Syracuse NY cast the receivers.

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Old March 14th, 2016, 08:54 PM   #4
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Great Information

Given that; I wonder how many were produced as Super Match and done by Glenn Nelsen in his shop during the period?

Any ideas?

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Old March 14th, 2016, 09:19 PM   #5
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I have no idea, I doubt very many , Super Matches were & still are pretty rare birds , I rarely saw one back in those days.
We have a resident sage on the history of the M14/M1A . a member named "Different" who may know .
Perhaps if you ask a specific ?? about a Glenn Nelson built rifle. Or he may answer here.
We do have a number of Nelson built rifle owner/members that would lead you to much more info once they hear Glenn's name.
BTW I've owned 2 M1A's from that era that I bought new way back when, an 88' factory E-2 and a 91' M1A SportMaster,
Never had a single problem with either one , and beleive me they're NOT safe queens .
I wouldn't trade either of them for the world

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Old March 14th, 2016, 10:01 PM   #6
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Different coined the phrase " Golden era" . He says it's from 042201 to 063000. It's when the receiver design had been revised to perfection and the receiver still retained the 7.62 mm marking. It's in his book. Look at Wikipedia and you'll see what Different says about all the serial number ranges

042201 was the first receiver seen without the ridge on the bottom of the receiver.


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Old March 14th, 2016, 11:02 PM   #7
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I have a 107XXX Loaded made in 1997. It is all USGI. I'm not sure who cast or machined the receiver. The numbers inside the receiver are in a matrix font (little dots)... any ideas what the deal is?

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It was my understanding Mr Nelson was a employee of SAInc till his death around 2003/04 and did both super match rifles and custom rifles ......am I off here?.

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Old March 15th, 2016, 05:51 AM   #9
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Serial range 025400

Hi all. I have an M1A I bought new in 1983 with a NM barrel and TRW bolt. Serial range is 025400. I have the original receipt and a paper that says "Bolt head spaced and test fired 20 rounds". Has a SAI business card stapled to it with the name Jim Glazier / Section Chief Assembly. I have been shooting mostly hand loads of 39gr of 3031 and 165gr bullets with no issues so far that I am aware of.With the readings here I see there might be issues with these early receivers. Is there any particular area I should be inspecting more closely? Thanks, Bill

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I'm not aware from reading here what the issues might be what issues and what threads are you reading?

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This is some great information Thanks to all of you

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Old March 15th, 2016, 07:10 AM   #12
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Different coined the phrase " Golden era" . He says it's from 042201 to 063000. It's when the receiver design had been revised to perfection and the receiver still retained the 7.62 mm marking. It's in his book. Look at Wikipedia and you'll see what Different says about all the serial number ranges

042201 was the first receiver seen without the ridge on the bottom of the receiver.
i have #062147and it is awesome on fit and finish, all USGI parts
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Old March 15th, 2016, 09:12 AM   #13
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I'm not aware from reading here what the issues might be what issues and what threads are you reading?
Previous posts saying the receiver design revised to perfection between 042201-063000. Just wondering what was changed then making it different from mine(025400).

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Old March 15th, 2016, 09:21 AM   #14
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Soo, was the metal better than my current production receiver? Was more love put into the making of the receiver?

Please, all of you machine workers out there don't get mad at me. I love your work.

From the VERY little I know about machining, aren't the machines smart machines these days? Plug and play?
What makes these receivers the best they used?
Just curious.
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Old March 15th, 2016, 09:54 AM   #15
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I'm not so certain that the "golden age" was truly golden. I built several rifles during that time using the "golden age" receivers and discovered that one of the receivers I purchased had never been machined to accept the trigger housing. The slot in the receiver for the guide tab on the trigger housing had not been machined so the trigger housing could not be inserted. I remember that was a big pain to exchange the receiver. So don't bank on finding that much that glitters from the "golden age."

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