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Old February 21st, 2012, 10:10 AM   #31
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Some interesting observations. It would, in my opinion, be an option for able bodied volunteers to be prepared to help with the local PD in their time of crisis and need. Maintaining the established "law and order" is much more desirable than a total breakdown. Severing as a sworn assistant to the professional officers of a force, providing back up and reinforcement to the authority of the pro police officers could extend the effectiveness of a PD. Help keep the peace and those thugs/bad guys at bay. What bad guy is going to argue with a PO that is part of a four man crew, all armed and ready to assist the PO in his duty?
that is overly optimistic, as the Police are taught guns are bad and anyone armed during an emergency is a bad guy, they will disarm you before they EVER let you aid them in keeping law and order

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Old February 21st, 2012, 10:58 AM   #32
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IMO, whatever you're doing right now to survive, that's what you've got when SHTF. whatever you've been practicing, that's what you have and whatever you've aquired( unless you lose it in the SHTF), that's what you have.


Anyone who's seen I-75 when Florida tries to evacuate North( in the event of a coming hurricane), or ( insert metropolis here) outward, you know that all roadways become parking lots, sitting ducks to BG, mini shopping marts, that you may well have to abandon.

AFA delusional, imo, what's delusional is to think you'll be able to aquire the tools and seeds and livestock and skill needed to have a self sustaining food supply after the SHTF;

That you'll be able to dress up like a LRRP and walk around the countryside, scavenging.

That you need a gas mask or body armor;

That you'll engage in sustained battles with groups of raiders( or anyone);

That you'll be able to BO to the hills and live off the land.


IMO, the reality is to get into that lifestyle now, become the gray man and live under the radar and have a network of barter buddies.

We moved to our BI homestead( 5 acres- half pasture, half woods), 3 yrs ago and raise rabbits, goats, chickens, ducks, geese and dogs. We get eggs and milk and make cheese( cottage, cream, soft and hard) and soap and have meat and collect and boil and filter our own water, right now. We have means to cook outside. We have Black and Blue berries, Plums, Loquats, Kumquats and Bananas, growing wild here. We're less than a mile from a large creek and 2 larger rivers. We have kayaks and have been kayak fishing and camping for almost 6 yrs now. I can tell you, it takes a few years to work out the bugs and get things thriving.

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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:31 PM   #33
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Good story, if anything it gets you thinking. I for one have pre-positioned everything and have multiple plans to bugout (based on timeframes). However, given the story even if for some crazy reason you ARE NOT ready to go, you still have to pick up and go...TIME NOW. Better to be alive and out of town with minimal supplies and a tank full of gas than stuck in traffic and eventually dead.

Bottom line is prepare in advance, and conduct rehearsals. Complacency kills.

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