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Old February 16th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1
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Doomsday Preppers Cinderblock Castle Episode

Having heard about it on this forum, I eagerly awaited and just finished watching the above episode which only recently aired in Canada. I have to say that the whole segment was a perfect metaphor for modern western governments: the guy has a clunky, indefensibly massive structure with half finished walls, no roof, no windows, and no doors, and he spends his time and money installing solar panel arrays while standing inside in the pouring rain.

That and the very lovely daughters made this a particularly entertaining episode.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:17 AM   #2
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Yep these types will be the first to go. They'll provide a lot of supplies to someone else when SHTF.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:37 AM   #3
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I saw that episode,it is one thing to be prepared.................there is also a point where obsessive compulsion takes over and the preps folks make exceed both sanity and any sense of practicality..................................

Latelely "Doomsday Preppers" seems to be obsessive about showing the truly "excentric way out there preppers".

His "Castle" is built from rather fragile concrete cinder blocks that modern ammunition can easily shatter. A U.S. Military fighting position using logs and sand bags would offer more protection than his whole dang castle would.

I did like the single blond chick worried about a government takeover, while i think what she was prepping for was unlikely, she did have her poo in a organized collective. However, she is living in SLC in rented property. If there is government takeover inside a city is NOT where you'd want to be, you'd be more immune out in the country and if there is government takeover and she can;t work how will she pay rent? Her and her supplies will be sitting on the curb wondering what to do.

She claims she can't find a boyfriend because of her prepping, well she hasn't met me, a single guy who can't find a woman who isn't afraid of guns and prepping.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:42 AM   #4
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Oh and "Castle" guy..............................

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man!!!"-Patton.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:55 AM   #5
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I prefer the episode where some gray haired Spec Ops Vet/ex-defense contractor setup spider holes around his vast property and stated he would forfeit his food stores if need be only to thereafter retake by night by killing off the invaders one by one.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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Crazy chick with the cats; the one that shows how to kill her cat... Megan Hurwitt? Yeah; that one was full of LOLs.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #7
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Well, that guy is more realistic than "Castle man", however what if the people gorge themselves using up his food before "Payback time".

He does not know how big the group that took his food is, or how much they'll eat of it.............say they only sent a foraging party of 5-10 people but those are scavenging for 500 people.............."Rambo man" is going to take out 500 people who have already had pot luck dinner using up all of his food stores?

He might wanna turn off the re-runs of 80's lone wolf adventure movies.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #8
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The castle one was good, but i prefer the wild west town. What kind of childrens amuesment park has live ordnance and bunkers behind most of its walls? And they claimed they would use the train ride as a perimter defense patrol. Apparently they want a slow loud and clunky patrol in a predicted pattern every time.

Castle guy needs to realize that none of his kids are dumb enough to care about being gifted that inheritance, and the ones playing his games are in it for the '100's' of acres. His oldest son was hilarious trying to handle an ak. 30 year old kid and you coulld see he was afraid of the gun; yupp, hes going to defend that castle all right!

I dont get how idiots have so much money. If i had even half that money (or access to credit) id improve my life 20 fold. And this guy builds a castle.

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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #9
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I did like the single blond chick worried about a government takeover, while i think what she was prepping for was unlikely, she did have her poo in a organized collective. However, she is living in SLC in rented property. If there is government takeover inside a city is NOT where you'd want to be...

SLC might be different. I don't know for certain because I've never been there, and I don't watch the show so I don't know if she is a Mormon of not. (They are in a very real sense an entire culture of preppers)

Anyway, I agree with your sentiment. I just wonder if there aren't individual cities that might have something that makes them different going for them.


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Oh and "Castle" guy..............................

"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man!!!"-Patton.
Well that depends on who you're defending against, doesn't it?

Certainly Patton was correct in regards to the Siegfried line, but that fortification had to deal with a modern industrialized Army with airplanes and essentially unlimited supply trains.


The most important question in this as in many things is not "why?" but "to what end?".

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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:50 AM   #10
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My girlfriend & I keep have mild t**-for-tats about me using redundancy on things.

Then one evening we saw the one where this guy had TWO women, his wife AND her sister in his prepping plans. I laughed and made a joke about "now that is the ultimate redundancy", and just then on the show he said that was exactly why he had the two women with him.

I don't know about you guys but I do not believe he thought this through very well.

FORMULA....[2 sisters + 1 man + lots of guns & ammo] nasty scenario = 1 dead man & 1 dead sister.

When was the last time you saw two women, related or not, share the same kithen, man and hous even under normal circumstances.

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"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man!!!"-Patton.

I think this is taken out of context too often. A fortification against a standing army with artillery & aircraft doesn't work well. But extended SHTF if you don't have a fortification where you can grow a garden & have livestock you will not survive. Even if you have 10 years of supplies you need a fortification to store & protect them. There is also having a good water source.

But anyone wanting to be a lone wolf with no home & noone to care for or care for them, why do you even want to live?

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Old February 16th, 2013, 02:17 PM   #12
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My 8 year old son is standing beside me as we looked at the "castle" being built - though filling cinder blocks with concrete will make them pretty tough.

My son just asked "Why? Castles are pretty much useless now."

That's my son, knows his history!

(By the way, at 7 years old, he could explain how disappearing cannons worked. Now, he can explain the kinds of cannons you would find in different parts of a 3rd System fort!)

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Old February 18th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #13
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"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man!!!"-Patton.

I think this is taken out of context too often. A fortification against a standing army with artillery & aircraft doesn't work well. But extended SHTF if you don't have a fortification where you can grow a garden & have livestock you will not survive. Even if you have 10 years of supplies you need a fortification to store & protect them. There is also having a good water source.

But anyone wanting to be a lone wolf with no home & noone to care for or care for them, why do you even want to live?

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EXACTLY! You are right on. SHTF is different. The problem is that modern homes are not made to be secure. 99% of modern homes have glass panes that someone could cut silently, reach a hand through and open the door and be on you before you would know it. Or a brick through the sliding glass door and be inside while your still trying to wake up and wondering,"What the heck was that noise."

I'm pretty close to selling my company and retiring. I keep looking at what some of the SHTF home builder are proposing. Concrete with lots of rebarb, steel doors with half inch vault rods that go into steel frames, but with nice oak covering to look pretty and normal. Strong roofs that don't catch fire. And, they make it all look like a beautiful, Greek hillside home or a Mediterranean villa. There are solar hot water systems that don't even need electricity. Add PV solar panels for having your own electricity after the event, ceiling fans that run on 24 or 48VDC and a windmill water pump and you could have a pretty nice place set up post SHTF. Put a deep earth bunkers steel storage under it and store replacement electrical stuff for post EMP and you could have a good setup for post SHTF if you build from the start with that in mind. Being completely self sufficient would still probably cost you about twice the typical nice retirement home will cost you but if energy keeps going up, it might eventually pay for itself.

I'll have the money to do it and make it big enough for about 15 people. At 65, I don't see me playing batman in the boondocks. The company I own the majority of got the Patriot Award last year for hiring vets, so I even have a few ex SEAL types and other special op types to be the tough young guys. And, enough extra equipment to help them out.

I view it as a fun hobby for an old engineer. I've been a bit of a prepper for 30 years. I'll probably be on vacation in Europe when it happens, but my brother will benefit a lot. I buy life insurance but don't expect to die soon. I have a 4 year old boy and a 5 year old girl I feel a duty to have some safety for.

The Doomsday Prepper show seems to specialize in the kooks that have pretty unbalanced preps for ONE unlikely SHTF SCENARIO. I think they are trying to make the whole idea look stupid and for the mentally unbalanced fringe. But, we have build a "just in time" supply chain society that is NOT robust from a large array of POSSIBLE collapses. Individually, any ONE is VERY unlikely, but COLLECTIVELY one of them is almost inevitable. At least a major economic collapse and rebalancing for a period when providing a more secure environment for you and yours could be a REAL advantage.

I have a retired general, a county sheriff, local doctors, a judge, senior lawyers and CEO types of high tech companies that are talking about building a retirement community of rural vacation homes/ranches like this. Plus a building contractor, mechanics and a pretty useful group of talent. I think we may be moving a little slow, but nobody laughs when I bring it up to someone new.

So, some dual use robust structures and are also a beautiful "get away from it all" place that you can also retire too is a good idea if you have the money. Or as close to it as you can afford.

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My girlfriend & I keep have mild t**-for-tats about me using redundancy on things.

Then one evening we saw the one where this guy had TWO women, his wife AND her sister in his prepping plans. I laughed and made a joke about "now that is the ultimate redundancy", and just then on the show he said that was exactly why he had the two women with him.

I don't know about you guys but I do not believe he thought this through very well.

FORMULA....[2 sisters + 1 man + lots of guns & ammo] nasty scenario = 1 dead man & 1 dead sister.

When was the last time you saw two women, related or not, share the same kithen, man and hous even under normal circumstances.
Actually, this is pretty much the norm in Thailand. Many well off Thai guys have a Palaya, or senior formal wife and a Mia Noi, or minor wife and then some Fan, or girl friends. It's kind of Old Testament over there.

But, Thai wives to occasionally threaten to "feed the duck." That way you can't sew it back on!

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Glad I don't have any ducks in the pond....

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