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Old April 18th, 2012, 12:41 AM   #1
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Once in position & leveled spend the time to coat the outside & insulate the inside. Even if you only bolt some osb to the inside it will make a big difference.

20ft shipping container would take about 14 sheets of osb. I think the best way to install them is with nuts & bolts running the bolts from the inside & nuts on the outside. If you panel the inside first, then when you coat the outside you will cover the bolts insulating them. Good deal whether you are in an area you need to heat or cool.
Whatever you do, expect it to take quite a bit to drill threw the sides.

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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #2
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I helped a buddy weld bolts on as studs and bolt it down like that. saved tons of time not having drill plus no holes and Im sure you would go threw 3 or more bits drilling that many holes. we did 6 bolts per sheet. I didn't help hang them just weld. I think he sprayed great stuff behind the boards but I'd have to ask.

Oh we talked about using a the plasma cutter and just burning holes so we wouldn't have to drill or weld studs on but he wanted no drilling, no hole.


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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #3
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I cut an 8" hole with hole saw in one of my containers and the trick is to use cutting fluid. I used Rapid Tap and it went pretty fast. I was having a problem with what I thought was condensation but once I had cut the hole and mounted a turbine vent I found that the real problem was a bad door seal. Now I'm in the process of cutting off the security cover that the previous owner had welded over the ring for a padlock and replacing the door seal. Whoever welded this cover on cut through both door seals!!

The other container that I have on this property is tight and dry so I know what should be happening with this one. Nice to have a control to compare to.

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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #4
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They had the one doomsday prepper that the folks built the house/compound out of shipping containers.

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I like where this is going. A buddy and I had the discussion about containers vs concrete. He wants the concrete route but I think the less "outside" people involved in the project, the better.

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There is the option of the spray foam on the inside which is quite expensive to have done. And it doesn't leave a finished surface since after drying its uneven.

In the holes that I've had to drill I've broken plenty of Dewalt drill bits. And with the plan to install osb on the inside I know I will break even more.
Six bolts sounds right as that is what I had also figured to drill per sheet of osb. Two on the top, two in the middle, & two towards the bottom.
To weld the bolts on the inside I think would make it really hard to mark whatever sheets used to match the holes to the welded bolts.
I can't think of a glue that would work.

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Whatever you use to panel the inside, I think it would be well worth the cost & effort to paint it white once installed.

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The white paint is a good trick boat builders use to make the inside seem bigger. Good idea.

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OK, . . . where do you get these shipping containers, . . . and what is a reasonable fee?

That is of course, . . . if you don't mind revealing your sources

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The Germans used fluorescent orange

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The white paint is a good trick boat builders use to make the inside seem bigger. Good idea.
My Dad got a look at a disabled German ambulance in WWII in France. It was painted fluorescent orange on the inside. Might be a bit much for an entire shipping container.

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Bolt template

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There is the option of the spray foam on the inside which is quite expensive to have done. And it doesn't leave a finished surface since after drying its uneven.

In the holes that I've had to drill I've broken plenty of Dewalt drill bits. And with the plan to install osb on the inside I know I will break even more.
Six bolts sounds right as that is what I had also figured to drill per sheet of osb. Two on the top, two in the middle, & two towards the bottom.
To weld the bolts on the inside I think would make it really hard to mark whatever sheets used to match the holes to the welded bolts.
I can't think of a glue that would work.

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You could make a bolt template out of 1/4 " plywood to mark the walls and your covering sheets. You could even cut it into a lattice to make it lighter.

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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #12
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go to the metal building supply places and they make a special screw that is for attaching wood to metal. it has a self drilling drill point to go through the steel and has these little "wings" that bore a slightly larger hole through the wood once the drill point pierces the steel the wings break off when they hit the steel and the threads catch it and will pull the wood tight to the steel surface. much faster than drilling a hole first. the ones I used had a large phillips head and I used a screw gun to run them in with a clutch that kept me from stripping them in the steel. they make a long larger version that is used to attach the floor decking in trailer homes to the steel frame. these are great to attach 2xs to steel perlin or structual iron. I have used quite a few pounds of these screws. sometimes Lowe's carries them I think they were about .04-.06 ea. good luck. If I could find my camera I would take a picture of them.

OK found camera. edit this post see if this works. Pic #3 is this type of screw that I drilled through the heavy structual beam. showed it just so you will know that they will drill through stuff this thick... just put a lot of pressure on the screw and don't turn it too fast or it will burn the drill pt and stop drilling. fyi. it is holding the conduit strap. pic #1 and #2 are of the longer ones used for attaching 2x4s etc... they make them all sizes.
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Yeah we had a template and marked on the walls where to put the bolts then he drilled the boards with the template. I still haven't seen the finished product but he said it came out good.

Gator are you talking about self tapping screws? they are a pain IMO.

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I have tried the self tapping screws on the shipping container & the shipping container wall is tougher then the screws. Meaning the threads stripped & that was eaven after doing a pilot hole. That is why I went to nuts & bolts.

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