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54321 · February 22nd, 2012, 01:01 PM

http://images.nationalgeographic.com...ne_Results.pdf

Sweets · February 22nd, 2012, 01:44 PM

That was very interesting.

Don't know why they picked that particular list of movies, though, all of which I have to regard as almost totally silly in terms of possibility. 'The Road', now, that one scared me because of Yellowstone. 'Red Dawn' has happened all through history, just not to the USA. Oops, off topic already! Sorry!

billythegoat · February 22nd, 2012, 01:46 PM

i like the show but , but seems slanted to make preppers look foolish , read over the survey , question # 8 tells me that almost half the respondants feel a disaster is on the horizon , something i have felt since TARP bill also question #9 only 8% build a bomb shelter, but question # 14 half would buy a house for that sole reason ,also found question # 10 interesting only 12% thought they could live beyond 3 1/2 months . now question 11 average bugout time 42 min, i plan to bugin, but to get enough supplies to be marginally self sufficient would take me a several hours.....will have to think and work on that

tmcfalls · February 22nd, 2012, 01:47 PM

8% of the survey takers don't think they could survive one day on their own. If that survey is applicable to the U.S. population as a whole then 8% of the population should be wearing a bike helmet and only be taken out in public on a dog leash.

tmcfalls · February 22nd, 2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweets

That was very interesting.

Don't know why they picked that particular list of movies, though, all of which I have to regard as almost totally silly in terms of possibility. 'The Road', now, that one scared me because of Yellowstone. 'Red Dawn' has happened all through history, just not to the USA. Oops, off topic already! Sorry!

My first thought was how can a survival survey movie list that doesn't list "Red Dawn" be considered legitimate.

That movie is solely responsible for planting the survival seed in my young brain.

tmcfalls · February 22nd, 2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by billythegoat

i like the show but , but seems slanted to make preppers look foolish , read over the survey , question # 8 tells me that almost half the respondants feel a disaster is on the horizon , something i have felt since TARP bill also question #9 only 8% build a bomb shelter, but question # 14 half would buy a house for that sole reason ,also found question # 10 interesting only 12% thought they could live beyond 3 1/2 months . now question 11 average bugout time 42 min, i plan to bugin, but to get enough supplies to be marginally self sufficient would take me a several hours.....will have to think and work on that

The first tip off to me was that everyone featured is planning only for one off the wall catastrophic event versus the multitude of plausible nature and man made events that exist. I hang out here and view several other survival sites and I have never seen a prepper say that they were planning for just one scenario.

billythegoat · February 22nd, 2012, 02:07 PM

exactly , most preppers gear toward self suffientcency , the world won't go out with a bang , it will be a slow wimper , as for red dawn can't offend the ruskies, red dawn 2 was supposed to be released fall 2011, had to change it to not offend the chinese , then n koreans , now i hear they are changing it to either republicans , christians , or preppers

54321 · February 22nd, 2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tmcfalls

My first thought was how can a survival survey movie list that doesn't list "Red Dawn" be considered legitimate.

That movie is solely responsible for planting the survival seed in my young brain.

Ditto, always hear from my kids on DVD night....

Awwww, not Red Dawn again.

Tenfeathers · February 22nd, 2012, 03:09 PM

Not a one of them would survive if they are like that in real life.
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TonyDedo · February 22nd, 2012, 03:18 PM

Here's the thing that gets me about many of those preppers. They're well prepared for highly unlikely scenarios like natural disasters, terrorist attacks and TEOTWAWKI, events that are less than .1% likely to happen. Yet I guarantee you half of them are up to their eyeballs in debt. What are the odds they'll end up unemployed in the near future? Unemployment is at 8%. How well prepared are they for that?

Palladin · February 22nd, 2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tmcfalls

My first thought was how can a survival survey movie list that doesn't list "Red Dawn" be considered legitimate.

That movie is solely responsible for planting the survival seed in my young brain.

Interesting.

The movie that planted the seed for me was "Man in the Wilderness" with Richard Harris as Zack Bass.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067388/

lone cypress · February 22nd, 2012, 05:28 PM

Dang, I think I saw my uncle Elroy in there! Can't be sure, didn't see a good pic. of his lack of teeth. Only in Hollywood!

tmcfalls · February 23rd, 2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyDedo

Here's the thing that gets me about many of those preppers. They're well prepared for highly unlikely scenarios like natural disasters, terrorist attacks and TEOTWAWKI, events that are less than .1% likely to happen. Yet I guarantee you half of them are up to their eyeballs in debt. What are the odds they'll end up unemployed in the near future? Unemployment is at 8%. How well prepared are they for that?

With the exception of a couple of people featured on the show I think the single disaster prep thing is creation of the producers, and it seems the crazier the scenario the better for them.

A smart prepper should certainly consider all likely scenarios and go about it in a financially smart manner, stocking up on items when prudent and shedding as much debt as possible. Part of being a smart prepper in my opinion would preparing for what could happen, while also preparing for what if nothing happens.

philjimpot · February 23rd, 2012, 10:05 AM

No movie planted the seed for me. I had to do a bunch of traveling in the military and there was always a potential for a crash landing. I always carried a small survival kit with me. Then Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans and that was a big eye opener for me. The devastation, how unprepared people were, the slow response by the government and the chaos that followed. It’s clear to me that you can’t (and shouldn’t) count on the government after a catastrophe occurs. Especially when FEMA puts out information called “Are you Ready?: A Guide to Citizen Preparedness”

http://www.ready.gov/are-you-ready-guide

You don’t have to go overboard with preparation but I think everyone should take some measures to prepare for an unforeseen event (natural or unnatural) that could affect you and your family.

tmcfalls · February 23rd, 2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by philjimpot

No movie planted the seed for me. I had to do a bunch of traveling in the military and there was always a potential for a crash landing. I always carried a small survival kit with me. Then Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans and that was a big eye opener for me. The devastation, how unprepared people were, the slow response by the government and the chaos that followed. It’s clear to me that you can’t (and shouldn’t) count on the government after a catastrophe occurs. Especially when FEMA puts out information called “Are you Ready?: A Guide to Citizen Preparedness”

http://www.ready.gov/are-you-ready-guide

You don’t have to go overboard with preparation but I think everyone should take some measures to prepare for an unforeseen event (natural or unnatural) that could affect you and your family.

"Red Dawn" planted the seed and Katrina drove the issue home enough for me to actually start preparing and an ice storm showed me that I needed to do more.