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Old May 18th, 2008, 08:12 PM   #1
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Converting a Savage 110

Hello all, I think I have given up on my Remington 742 that has given me too many headaches. It's chambered in 30-06.

My primary hunting rig is now a Savage 110 in 270. I will be elk hunting later this year and I want a 30-06 rifle or larger. I want to convert it to 30-06, 300 win mag or possibly 7mm mag. I am pretty sure that I can just replace the barrel and be good with the 06, but if I wanted to change to the larger magnum calibers, would I need a new bolt face, barrel, and internal magazine?

It looks like I can buy all the parts from Numrich for less than $200.

Has anyone here ever done a caliber conversion like that?

Thanks, Tony.

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Old May 18th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #2
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Hi Tony,

I do not have all of the calibers you asked about but I do know that the .308 (.30-06) and the .300 WM have different sized bolt faces.

Good Luck,

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Old May 19th, 2008, 03:36 PM   #3
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I understand about the bolt face differences. Maybe I should have worded my question better.

What I'm really wondering about is the compatability of my receiver and stock. Will my receiver work with any and all of the calibers and if I convert to a magnum cartridge, will I have to modify my stock to accomodate a different sized barrel? If I get a different internal magazine, will I have to modify the inside of my stock? If I decide to go with a heavy barrel, what challenges might I run into?

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Old May 19th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #4
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Aloha Tonyben,

I only have one Savage (112 FV in .223) and not that familiar with Savages, but I am thinking that you already have a long action (110 in .270) so converting your rifle to accomodate another cartridge should be doable. The 300 WM should be close to the 270 in length.

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...but if I wanted to change to the larger magnum calibers, would I need a new bolt face, barrel, and internal magazine?
I think you're correct and in my thinking that is about all you would need to change to another caliber (aside from needing the necessary tools to make this happen (barrel nut wrench, barrel vice, headspace gauges, etc.)).

As for the stock, necessary modifications would depend on what you presently have and what you are planning on installing. I removed the plastic Savage stock from my rifle and replaced it with a Bell and Carlson. Fortunately, the Bell and Carlson had a barrel channel cut for the heavy Savage contour and not the hunting barrel contour and was a drop in fit, not requiring any additional modification to the barrel channel. But on my Remington's, I have had to do this on a number of rifles, and it is very easy and straightforward. If you are planning on bedding the Savage, from what I have been able to gather, many only bed the forward end of the receiver, the lug and 1-2" of the barrel. If you stay with the same barrel contour there should be no need to modify the stock. The long action should be able to accomodate at least the 300 WM with no problem.

I am sure someone more experienced with Savages will be able to help and jump in here.

Good Luck,

Tom O.

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Thanks Dig..

Thanks Dig.

I think I already have the configuration determined. I was talking to my gunsmith yesterday about my plans and he happened to have a good used Savage 110 barrel in 30-06. He said it's mine for $50 and it would only take 10 minutes to install, provided there are no headspace issues.

I may look at a magnum caliber later on down the road. If I do, at that point, I may just look at buying a new rifle, but that would come much later after my m14 build is done and I get a Garand and a Sig 556 and a..........(fill in the blank).

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Old May 21st, 2008, 02:21 AM   #6
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Aloha Tony,

Sounds like you got a plan! Cool!

I am sure your collection will be awesome when all is said and done! The M14 type rifles have always interested me, but, like you, I also like to have others as well... Garands, FAL, AR-10, assorted AR's, etc.

Do post your pics as you get your rifles... I know the membership here will enjoy them.

Good Luck!

Aloha and Best Wishes,

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Let me point out there is a forum called Savage shooters, they have lots of info regaurding Savage rifles, and the points of contact much like this site has on M-14's.

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Hello all, I think I have given up on my Remington 742 that has given me too many headaches. It's chambered in 30-06.

My primary hunting rig is now a Savage 110 in 270. I will be elk hunting later this year and I want a 30-06 rifle or larger. I want to convert it to 30-06, 300 win mag or possibly 7mm mag. I am pretty sure that I can just replace the barrel and be good with the 06, but if I wanted to change to the larger magnum calibers, would I need a new bolt face, barrel, and internal magazine?

It looks like I can buy all the parts from Numrich for less than $200.

Has anyone here ever done a caliber conversion like that?

Thanks, Tony.

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Old July 30th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #8
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Great!

Thanks for the info.

I'll definitely check into that site as I am having trouble with my Savage. I was having 2.5" vertical stringing for a while but that went away. In the process of trying to solve the stringing problem, my groups shifted POI twice. I had my scope zeroed for center mass, then for 3 weeks, they shifted 4" high. I re-adjusted my scope for a new zero and now my groups shifted 4" low on my last range trip.

I think I am going to hang up the Savage until I finish my M14 and AR build, then do a complete customization conversion to 300 win mag with a composite bedded stock and a better scope.

Only time will tell though, the wife wants kids soon which will change everything!

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Old August 17th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #9
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you can open up the bolt face to except a 300 win or leave
it alone and make it a 280AI that will shoot as a 7mm mag
can push a 162 amax at 3100 fps with 56gr of IMR4350
28 inch barrel and longer barrel life.
All will work without doing a magazine change..
Lots of choices...

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Hello all, I think I have given up on my Remington 742 that has given me too many headaches. It's chambered in 30-06.

My primary hunting rig is now a Savage 110 in 270. I will be elk hunting later this year and I want a 30-06 rifle or larger. I want to convert it to 30-06, 300 win mag or possibly 7mm mag. I am pretty sure that I can just replace the barrel and be good with the 06, but if I wanted to change to the larger magnum calibers, would I need a new bolt face, barrel, and internal magazine?

It looks like I can buy all the parts from Numrich for less than $200.

Has anyone here ever done a caliber conversion like that?

Thanks, Tony.
I've never personally done the conversion like that, but according to my Speer reloading manual, the 270 Winchester has a case head diameter of .473".

The .30-06 also has a case head diameter of .473", along with the .243 Winchester and the .308 Winchester (aka, 7.62 NATO )

The 7mm Remington Magnum and the .300 Win Mag both have have case head diameters of .532".

That's not a lot of difference, relatively speaking, but it does mean that you would not have your case head supported according to specs, which is a bad thing when you're talking about belted magnums.

If you're looking to save a few bucks and just change the barrel, I would personally think it would be less of a hassle to just rechamber it in .30-06.

The 270 case is slightly longer than the .30-06, so I would tend to think you wouldn't need a new magazine.

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Hi Tony,

I do not have all of the calibers you asked about but I do know that the .308 (.30-06) and the .300 WM have different sized bolt faces.

Good Luck,

Tom O.
You can order the bolt heads through brownells. its prety easy and straight forward to change them.

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Old August 18th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #12
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All great ideas. I decided to put the Savage on the shelf for now. Our elk tag did not make the lottery so there's no rush. When I get to finishing it, I decided I'm going to perform an all out accuracy conversion.

Right now, I was getting 1.5" groups with a scope on a bench with that used barrel. My POI shifted 3" between range trips. That's just too unacceptable for me and there are too many variables. I want ragged holes. Everything on this rifle is an unknown variabe and I want to start from scratch and eliminate the variables all together. When the time comes, it will have a free floated heavier barrel, a flatter shooting bullet, a nice strong scope and a fully bedded composite stock.

I've decided to focus all my money on completing my first M14 (LRB) for now. All I need are rear sights, bolt guts and a slide stop which I'll just have Ted supply when I send my build to him.

I'll revisit this project later.

Thanks, Tony.

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Old August 19th, 2008, 03:01 AM   #13
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Tony, I have a Savage 110FXP that I bought for my daughter 2 years ago. As far as I'm concerned, it's a real POS rifle. It will NOT hold zero at all. Does not matter what kind of scope or mount combo you put on it. Last mount and scope combo was all Leupold. Leupold bases and rings and VX-1 4-12X40 scope. First 5 shot group would string to the upper right. Second 5 shot group would string to ther lower left. And this was shot from a benchrest shooters rig, NOT even using the scope. This POS just will not shoot straight at all. The best factory ammo group was with Winchester 150 grain SP. It would hold 3 inches at 100 yards. I don't know what is wrong with this rifle. I have 3 other old Savage 340 rifles that are really tack drivers for what they are. Hope your 110 works out. Mine will be history shortly!

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