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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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CZ 527 223 Carbine

I'm looking into getting one of these. I can't decide on the Carbine or a Varmint rifle in same caliber.

The carbine has a 1:12 twist vs the Varmint 1:9

I've only got experience with .223's with 1:7 twist, as in AR type rifles.

The 1:12 part of the carbine has kind of got me hung up... not sure how it will be with factory and surplus ammo, also plan to reload some time in the future.

1:12 just seems too slow. Why would CZ do this?

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Old January 9th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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For the 55grn pills?

Would seem to be too slow for the 62grn. But ????????

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Old January 9th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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Many bolt actions are 1:12. Meant for the lower weight bullets that were prevalent in the earlier years of the .223. 40 to 55 gn. But...you can rebarrel it to any twist you want.

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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:44 PM   #4
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I have the heavy barrels varmint in 223 & 204, I'd go that route just for the option for heavier bullets. On the other hand I can't legally hunt big game with anything smaller then a .23 caliber bullet so it's strictly used to dispatch varmints and such Anyway

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Old January 10th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #5
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good choice in rifle by the way, i have had 3 cz rifles in my time and i have loved everyone.

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Old January 24th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #6
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My CZ is very accurate. 1:12 twist works for the majority of varmit, small game and target shooting I do. I have other rifles with faster twists for heavier bullets. Once you get up there in bullet weight you might as well shoot your 243.

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Old January 24th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #7
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Black Hills makes a 36gr (Varmit Gernade) .223 round that would shoot beautifully thru that.

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Old January 24th, 2013, 06:55 PM   #8
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I bought one of the first CZ 527 Euro .223 models that came into the country ( now called the lux) It has a 23-5/8" barrel with a 1:12 twist. 50 grain v max at about 3,500 fps shoot 1/2 moa or better .I have made many 600 yard shots on varmints with this round . One sub zero day in Montana I killed 3 coyotes at 557 571 and 644 with 3 shots. CZ makes a killer barrel . 55gr Bullets still shoot moa but I love the 50 vmax in this rifle.I think the bigger slugs are a waste in 223 as this as a varmint round is fantastic with the 50-55 grain slugs

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Old January 24th, 2013, 09:01 PM   #9
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So with all this about small pills and a slow twist, will the faster 1:9 be a bad thing the smaller weight bullets?

Keep in mind I only have .223 experience with the AR type firearms.

I've ordered the varmint version of the CZ 527.

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Old January 25th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #10
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My carbine is VERY accurate. use 62 grains. If I ONLY shot 45-55, I'd get the Varmint

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Old January 25th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #11
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I have the 527 Carbine topped with a Nikon P-223 3-9x40 scope and it does the job very nicely. I load the 50gr. Z-Max projectiles with CFE223 powder with great success. I've made shots out to 300yds with this rig and have taken it out on pig hunts in SC. GREAT rifle! I also have a 452 Trainer and compete with it in smallbore matches.

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Old February 12th, 2013, 05:51 AM   #12
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Thanks for all the comments.

Got the rifle and finally picked out a scope for it.

I went with the Nikon M223 in 4x16x42mm. Zero'd in 4 shots, and so far, out to 200 yards, the turret works as advertised. Nice scope. I like it so far.

The 527 is really a nice rifle. I'm impressed. I will say I was a bit nervous having never handled one before. Mounting the scope proved to be a challenge. Mounts just fine in the provided rings, but the bolt handle interfered with the eye piece when cycling the bolt. Fortunately I had ordered a picatinny rail to mount on top of the dovetail to convert the 16mm dovetail to standard Picatinny rail. Tried some Burris Signature HIGH rings, and they worked, but scope was way too high. Swapped them for the same Burris rings, except medium height. These work well, but still cannot use flip up scope cover on eye piece as it interferes with the bolt handle.

It shoots well. I put three shots all touching each other at 100 yards, and about a 1" group at 200. Those were with the Hornady Zombie 55grn load.

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Old February 13th, 2013, 03:55 PM   #13
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I am seriously considering a CZ 527 Carbine in .223.

What is the build quality of these?? How is the stock?? I have read some comments on other forums that with some scopes the bolt has very little clearance . . and that because of this CZ offers a re-contoured bolt for the rifle.

I guess my real concern is my first question . . Build Quality??

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Thanks for all the comments.

Got the rifle and finally picked out a scope for it.

I went with the Nikon M223 in 4x16x42mm. Zero'd in 4 shots, and so far, out to 200 yards, the turret works as advertised. Nice scope. I like it so far.

The 527 is really a nice rifle. I'm impressed. I will say I was a bit nervous having never handled one before. Mounting the scope proved to be a challenge. Mounts just fine in the provided rings, but the bolt handle interfered with the eye piece when cycling the bolt. Fortunately I had ordered a picatinny rail to mount on top of the dovetail to convert the 16mm dovetail to standard Picatinny rail. Tried some Burris Signature HIGH rings, and they worked, but scope was way too high. Swapped them for the same Burris rings, except medium height. These work well, but still cannot use flip up scope cover on eye piece as it interferes with the bolt handle.

It shoots well. I put three shots all touching each other at 100 yards, and about a 1" group at 200. Those were with the Hornady Zombie 55grn load.

Here's a couple pics





Folks dont believe these are bonified 1/2 moa rifles ;till you show em CZ makes the finest bolt action rifle around

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Old February 15th, 2013, 07:08 AM   #15
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I'd say the build quality is excellent. Everything is machined well, fit right, and has a quality feel about it. Better than any Remington I have.

It compares favorably compared to my M700 VS bull barreled .308 with more or less the same HS Precision stock.

I've only had it to the range once (the CZ .223 Varmint), and all I can say is awesome. I'm sorry I waited so long to make the decision to buy one of these rifles.

With the reduced recoil of the .223, compared to my .308, it's a fun rifle to shoot as well. I think I could shoot it all day long if had the money for the ammo.

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