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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #1
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Looking to buy a gun on a budget

I'm on a tight budget right now for hobby stuff. I can't pay much more than $600, .308 Is my preferred round, Accuracy and reliability are key to me.
So here is what I've been looking at:
Remington 700
Savage Model 10FP
Ruger M77 (I haven't found a .308 M77 at or under 600)

any suggestions? I'm iffy about some of the cheaper .308 guns because they feel cheap but if anyone has any good experiences with Mossberg, Weatherby, or the cheaper savage's let me know.

A little background in what it will be used for; fun at the range, Deer hunting, Maybe some SHTF if needed? and more fun at the range.

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #2
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With all of that being said, I recommend the Remington 700.

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #3
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care to explain why?

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #4
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Sorry. Remington 700's have a very good reputation and have been around since the 60's. Some say it's the best selling bolt action in the world. They are the basis for the M24 sniper rifle. They are an archetype for bolt action rifles. They have a bunch of features, my favorite being an adjustable trigger.


Basically, it will cover fun at the range, deer hunting, and SHTF scenarios equally well.

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:32 PM   #5
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Yeah I know a few guys that own and love the 700. Having a hard time finding a .308 700 in my price range Maybe you got one you will let go of?
My local walmart has one for 710 or something like that..

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Not at the moment but I can help you look. Do you already have a scope you can put on one?

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #7
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I've got a friend that said I can borrow a scope for a few months. But no I don't own one myself right now.

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Old April 5th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #8
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There is a huge aftermarket for the Rem 700, so when you can afford it you can upgrade it as you go. pretty good for Savage too, most Ruger people I know leave there 77's alone and shoot them the way they are. Savage's are easy to re-barrel, all you need is a barrel nut wrench, a barrel vise and a "Go" head space gauge, you can even change the bolt head to go to a magnum round. Savage 110 [long action] rifles can be found after hunting season pretty cheap. and you can re-barrel them in 308 Win. no problem, I have one I did with a heavy barrel that I cut down to 18.5" long with a Choate folding stock, Its a cool rifle and it will shoot 3/4" moa all day long.

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I picked up a used 308 Remington 700 for $550 with a Nikon scope a while back that shot <MOA all day long with any ammo. Light, accurate, cheap, huge aftermarket support, and not a single complaint. This whole rumor of them going off with the safety on didn't happen to me.

Really regret selling that thing....

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Old April 5th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #10
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My vote is with Savage. I have an FCP in 308. The FC is pretty much the same, but with a different stock. It comes with the accu-trigger, and shoots well out of the box. Ive got one of Savage's model 114s in 30-06 that out of the box shoots 1/2 inch. Take a look at Savages web site, they've come a long way.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #11
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I would avoid the savage 10. They have not been consistent with design, thus limiting your accessory options when you get the cash.

You can throw that remy 700 in an accuracy international chassis and you have truly deadly weapon.

I recommend finding a used one. might even get a scope thrown in.

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All 3 choices IMO are good solid choices. I don't own an M77 but have been looking at them in 7mm mag. Just haven't found one at the price I'd like so I stick with the Pre64 model 70 in 30/06 and sako finbear in .300 win mag for Elk

I have a savage 110 in .308 and I really like it. Straight shooter out of the box. I bought the package deal with a cheap Nikon scope on top for like $490.00. Scope lasted aprox 25 rounds before the reticle blew out of it. Litany old Leupold I had on top of it and its been solid for 4-5 years and hundreds of rounds. I got the NE with the Accu stock and the Accu trigger and I'm happy with both. Only issue I have now with this rifle is the recoil is down right Un friendly! I'm not recoil sensitive but after 15-20 rounds on the range this thing is not fun to shoot. I'd put the recoil on this right below my sako .300 win mag with a muzzle break on it. But besides the range I'm fully happy. Easy to carry while hunting, solid platform, and shoots straight


I have an older, mid 80's, rem 700 in 30/06 and I like that rifle also. As said I is and has been a solid platform for many many years. They went unchanged for most of their history but after a few deaths from a suspected Un safe trigger mech I think they changed the trigger group a few years ago.

I rem and the savage are IMO hard to compare. The rem is like a really nice Deluxe F350 and the Savage is more like a simple F150. But functionally I think they both are fine weapons.
I do like the Walnut stock, jeweled bolt, high luster bluing and BUI on the Remington. But the synthetic stock, SS barrel, light weight, and factory adjustable Accu trigger on the Savage.

IMO the Ruger M77 is the most Un pleasing to the eye out of the 3. The wood on the stocks reminds me of the cheep look on my Mini 14 and the bolt doesn't seam to be as smooth as the other 2.

I'd pick between the Ruger and the Remington and I would go with 30/06 instead of .308. You can hunt anything in North America with a 30/06 including the big brown bear. Although most advise against it and say you need a minimum of 300 win mag for that.

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I'm on a tight budget right now for hobby stuff. I can't pay much more than $600, .308 Is my preferred round, Accuracy and reliability are key to me.
So here is what I've been looking at:
Remington 700
Savage Model 10FP
Ruger M77 (I haven't found a .308 M77 at or under 600)

any suggestions? I'm iffy about some of the cheaper .308 guns because they feel cheap but if anyone has any good experiences with Mossberg, Weatherby, or the cheaper savage's let me know.

A little background in what it will be used for; fun at the range, Deer hunting, Maybe some SHTF if needed? and more fun at the range.


Garnerm, out of your three choices, I'd say you have more chance of finding a Rem 700 simply because it has been in production much longer. Since you are limited in funds, I might suggest that you try to find a used one such as available at Gun Shows or local Pawnshops. Used hunting rifles are usually a good buy. Most hunters buy a deer rifle and use it for a week or two a year. They fire a limited number of rounds thru it to sight in prior to the hunt. I've seen rifles used a couple of years, stored in a closet for 20-30 yrs before the guy decided to sell it because he doesn't hunt anymore. Some actually have a partial box of ammo that he got with the rifle. Look for the std hunting rifle, not a target model that could have a lot of rounds downrange thru it. Go visit your local pawnbroker explaining what you are looking for and leave him your phone number to call you if he gets that model in. If you leave your number at enough of these guys, you will get some hits. A good used gun will cost a fraction of a new one. Good Luck. dozier

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Old April 6th, 2012, 10:44 AM   #14
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I am going to go with a used Rem 700. I will also keep an open mind to different calipers than the .308 So if I find a 30/06 or a winchester 300 I will jump on it. I kinda already had made up my mind on the Rem 700 you guy just made me more confident in my decision. Also thanks for giving useful answers instead of just saying buy this gun!

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Old April 6th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #15
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I am going to go with a used Rem 700. I will also keep an open mind to different calipers than the .308 So if I find a 30/06 or a winchester 300 I will jump on it. I kinda already had made up my mind on the Rem 700 you guy just made me more confident in my decision. Also thanks for giving useful answers instead of just saying buy this gun!


Yea, impulse buying will always cost you more in the end. Now is a good time to put out feelers for your rifle, because generally most states Big Game seasons are over. Prices generally increase a month or two prior to the season because of demand. Conversely they drop right after the season. Pawnbrokers know this and are more willing to "dicker" the price after the season. They make money by turning over thier goods, and would not want to hold on to it for another 9 months before it's sold. dozier

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