M14 Forum

Belovedcorps · February 18th, 2012, 05:47 PM

I had a Texas Brigade Armory M40 a2 that was the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. 1/4 minute gun, cold bore shot was no different from the rest. IMHO Mike Lau builds the best most consistent rifles. For the money I don't think you can beat them.
http://www.texasbrigadearmory.com/

drshame · February 18th, 2012, 06:03 PM

My Friend German Salazar has shot a lot of platforms at long range and has won a lot of events doing it.
He's gone back to an oldie but goodie that most of us take for granted and says he's getting plenty of long range accuracy, lots of component selection and lots of good, solid actions available to build on:

30.06

Don't take it for granted for a newer, boutique round that's specialized, has limited brass/bullet selection and may need a semi-custom action.

Just sayin.

Packing a 45 · February 18th, 2012, 06:08 PM

I would stay away from the Ren 700 to many ADs. You you have the time look for a Win 70 action or K98 sporter never seen a smoother action both have controled round feeding every other bolt action worth anything is copied from the K98 Win 70 just as good.

If you reload for M14. thats one way to go hey but you already have a 308

I'm sure 300 WM will work in either one. More bang out to 1000

Gool luck. Packing

IC2(SS)19Z50C5 · February 18th, 2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drshame

30.06 Don't take it for granted. Just sayin.

Exactly!!!!, I’m going to pick up the item as described in the below link within the next couple of weeks. When I see my old Pard call sign mrgoodrifle here on the threads, I’m dropping off a Pre-64 M70 hunting rifle to be rebuilt on the same dimensions, stock and etc as my M721 Swede as listed below. Everyone needs to have at least ONE Gold Standard “Ought-6”. I have a M1903 Springfield C stock that was rebarreled by mrgoodrifle 20 some years ago. But before he rebarreled and bedded the action and floor plate I was still able to shoot 5 X’s in a row at a 1000 yards with it at KD-22 at Ft. Lewis, WA… Sights??? Irons, hooded front post and a Lyman 48 on the rear. A good Ought-6 will never let you down. Not as efficient as some of the new breeds but still effective.

6.5x55 Swede

MemphisMachinists · February 20th, 2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mfdogman

You have asked a question that in the end will give you enough advice to build 100 rifles. I say the following from experience, a Remington 700 action is like a Chevy 350 or a Ford 351. Relatively inexpensive, after market parts are abundant and quality is very good. This is exactly why I am thinking in this direction.
Some other thing to consider:
1.What is your budget, better to cry once now than cry many time because you wished you would have gotten something else. $1500-$2000 W/O optics
2.What is your time frame, many barrel and stock companies have a 3 to 12 month waiting list. I don't mind this taking a year or longer I don't expect it to be less than 6 months and don't mind year and a half.
3.Main use of rifle, there is no one size fits all. Target, hunting, long distance? This should help caliber decision. Target shooting and I already limit my caliber choices maimly to .308 I have considered a Win mag 300 strongly, but it would be the only rifle for me in this caliber and not sure I want to invest in a different caliber; probably not.
4.Talk to as many people as you can and read as many non bias reviews as you can. Not the reviews that have the advertisement on the next page.
5.Until you have made all the decision on the rifle try to keep the optics choices separate.

6.Consider a Sako extractor for the Remington action.

7.A lot of folks say buy the best product you can afford. I say buy the best the first time even if you have to wait a little longer. Agreed
8.Before you buy talk to the rep at the companies. McMillian, Krieger, etc. They can be helpful and most of the time they are shooters like us. Planning to go to Camp Perry this year, not to shoot, for fun and commercial row.
I am trying not to give you specific advice on what product you should purchase but just some things to consider before you purchase.

I hope this helps.

Yes it helps and thanks for all the replies.

Hamstur · February 20th, 2012, 10:48 AM

Hey MM, just re-read all the posts and realized you never specified if you currently reload. I thought about this because my next rifle will be a 6.5x47 Lapua but only because I reload. Easy to find good commercial ammo like FGMM in 308WIN at ~$1 a round, but there are few if no options for the 6xx family (including 260REM and 243WIN). For what's available, the price is very high. Anyhow, I would stick with 308 if you don't reload or plan to soon.

$1500-2000 will buy you a lot. For peace-of-mind that your rifle will shoot well & resale value sake (e.g., you start to re-load and want a different caliber), go high end vs piecing your rifle together. Off the top of my head, examples of recent deals I saw around your price range are:

- Used Sako TRG21 - $2000
- Brand new FNH SPR A2 - $1550-1600
- Used FNH FBI A3G - $1900
- AI AE Mk1 - $2350

I helped my roommate by a GAP Rock last month for $2000 even.

With any of those guns at those prices -- you can get every cent back if you decide to sell (except the brand new SPR A2). It's a lot harder to get $ back on something you assemble.

bd111 · February 20th, 2012, 11:44 AM

I was reluctant to "promote" calibers, too, but German is right when he quotes Townsend Whelen about the .30-06 never being a mistake. It's the variety of high-performance powders and bullets available now for a strong bolt gun, like your Model 70.

drshame · February 20th, 2012, 05:46 PM

Somebody say 1903?

IC2(SS)19Z50C5 · February 20th, 2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drshame

Somebody say 1903?

Very, very nice... I have a bayonet like that also... marked 1918... I should take a picture of my 1903 and post it... And that's a nice campaign hat also, is it an original???

mustang7 · February 26th, 2012, 05:22 PM

Anybody here have anything from the Remington Custom Shop? No experience here but the Catalog looks to have some pretty nice rifles. The XM3 Tactical system with an 18 1/2 barrell claims sub MOA accuracy out to 1000 yards with 7.62. How is this possible?

Hamstur · February 29th, 2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mustang7

Anybody here have anything from the Remington Custom Shop? No experience here but the Catalog looks to have some pretty nice rifles. The XM3 Tactical system with an 18 1/2 barrell claims sub MOA accuracy out to 1000 yards with 7.62. How is this possible?

Manufacturers who make this claim typically mean with match ammo such as FGMM 175 and usually only test 3 round groups and viced with top quality bench rest equipment. All they need to do is knock 3 rounds in a sub-10.47" group at 1000 yards, and they claim sub-MOA to 1000...

Dredsen · March 1st, 2012, 12:06 AM

rem 700 in 300 win mag, AI chassis (weight problem?). nice piece of glass, and get ballistic FTE field edition on your iPhone its great.

TexIndian · March 1st, 2012, 12:33 AM

My most accurate gun is a GAP Crusader, but that won't fit in your stated budget goal. The guys I know who shoot out to 1,000 have gone one of two ways, either they get one of the shoulder-busting calibers (338 Lapua, etc) or they go to one of the 6mm guns. I know the .308 can get there with the right load, but that's not the most popular caliber you see on the line when you go to one of the long-range clubs.

One friend recently got a Savage in 6.5 x 284 and he loves it at 1,000 yards. Right out of the box, he is shooting with the big boys in his local club competitions. But from what I understand, he will also be putting new barrels on that rig fairly often since it tends to burn out the throats pretty quick.

dprice3844444 · March 1st, 2012, 02:51 PM

check out legacysports.com available through midwayusa etc. this is the howa/weatherby/mossberg actions,reasonably priced,blue/stainless. you can get just actions or barreled actions. add your own barrel setup and stock of your choice.

hero4you69 · March 6th, 2012, 02:45 PM

great thread & alot of good info . for along time now I have shot 7mm mag out of a winchester model 70. alot of 1000 yard records are held with a 7mm mag . 300 mag & 30-06 both great rounds but now I am looking at the new savage in 338 lapua of for less $ the 308 . loaded rifle from the factory with all the pedigree to own for around $ 1300.00 but the 338 ammo is another cost factor for me to consider .

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