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Old March 12th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #1
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M21 "Sniper Rest"?

Anybody ever seen one of these?




It was being sold on e-bay a few months ago as some sort of special "sniper rest" for an original USGI M21 or M25 sniper version of the M14. I never saw one before or even heard of such a thing. The auction is long gone, but I did save the pics. I think it went for around $60.00 IIRC.

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Old March 12th, 2007, 12:54 PM   #2
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Post Now you have me wondering..........

Now that you have me wondering about these things, I checked on Ebay - $99 or so, I also found a place that has them listed for $6.50 plus shipping. I am curious about their history and the like........

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Old March 12th, 2007, 12:57 PM   #3
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This is a shooting rest made by a company that I think is still in business. I would have to search several publications to see it it shows up, but I not familar with its use.

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Old March 12th, 2007, 01:06 PM   #4
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Post Freeland.....

The research that I did shows they are made by Freeland and marketed by: http://www.championshooters.com/store/home.php

As far as the history or military use - nothing so far....

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Old March 12th, 2007, 01:42 PM   #5
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Funny, ... the one on the right looks exactly like the one in the e-bay auction.

http://www.championshooters.com/stor...6&cat=0&page=2

I wonder if there was really ever a military application? The fellow in the ad was really going on and on about how rare these things are and how they were the original piece issued with an M21, etc., ... sounded very convincing. I was a little suspicious, and didn't have the kind of money it was going for at the time so didn't bother throwing in a bid.

If it was phoey, I wish I would have brought it here sooner. I just tucked the pictures away and figured I'd ask when I got around to it and forgot about it until I was going through my pics folder today.

If they ever were issued to G.I.'s, I might spring for the $6.50 (forget the $99.00 version ). Don't think it would see much use though. That metal looks like it would play he!! with the finish on my hand rubbed walnut stock

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Old March 12th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #6
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Hi-Tech !!!

"...but I not familar with its use."
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Bill...Apparently these are Highly Technical...PRECISION Instruments!!!

According to the web-site...You Stick Them In The Ground!!!

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Maybe a guy could just bring one of those Antique Boot Jacks from the front porch at home !?

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Old March 12th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #7
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I just did a quick look on e-bay (after the mention of one going for $99 above) and sure enough, looks like the same guy is selling another one with the same pics. The auction I got the pictures from was a good 3-4 months ago at least, so he must make a regular business of buying them for $6.50, adding a little "snake oil," and selling them on ebay for $99.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/USGI-M14-M-14-SN...QQcmdZViewItem

"This is the real deal, an original Freeland rifle rest or bipod/support. This was part of the issued feild gear for a sniper team. If you look in your vintage manuals you will see these listed with the M14 sniper rifle kit. Mint condition! This is a very rare find!"

Anybody seen this thing in their vintage manuals?

Strange though, ... after looking through the guys feedback, it looks like he mostly deals in very legit looking vintage camera and watch parts/equipment.

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Old March 12th, 2007, 02:15 PM   #8
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IMHO, These are just temporary rifle rests to keep your rifle off the ground prior to and after the prone stage of a match. Used mostly by the Smallbore crowd. I can't believe someone would pay $99 for one.
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I guess there's one born every minute, ...

"Sold for: US $99.99
Auction ended early with Buy It Now."


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

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It is indeed a simple rest that was available for service rifle shooters to rest their rifle in between different stages of the match. I remember seeing them when I was younger.

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We had a couple of M21 rifles in our company. Never seen these and don't believe they were issued for combat use. I wasn't on the shooting team while in service. No time. We also had plenty to carry without needing anything like that to add to the load.

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I carried an M21 my first tour of Division...Never even saw one of those things 'til now.

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I think there's a picture in Blake Stevens' book on the m14. I also think there's at least one picture in one of Senich's books on sniping where the complete kit is laid out. I'll look through my books and scan a picture

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I think there's a picture in Blake Stevens' book on the m14. I also think there's at least one picture in one of Senich's books on sniping where the complete kit is laid out. I'll look through my books and scan a picture
Part of the problem is some GI may have purchased it as a commercial "off the shelf item", it got into a book, and now it is gospel. I would like to see a contract, drawing number, or old federal stock number to assure it was a GI item.

To be honest I think something like this is totally useless in a combat sniper situation. Snipers are best when they can shoot without cumbersome aids and something else to carry around. If it were me, I would leave it in the rear area.

I have some sniper information here and one day I will look to see if anything shows up.

Not to pick on Senich, I applaud his knowledge of sniping. But like everybody else, he makes some mistakes. He shows a "Marine Sniper" in the Domincan Republic, which is actually a member of the 82d Abn Division. Actually the guy is from Alpha Company, 2/325th Airborne Infantry. I think he got that information from Tom Nelson's book on the Domican Republic deployment, which is also full of identification errors.

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Old March 14th, 2007, 09:39 PM   #15
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I agree it's totally useless in a sniping role. I also know what picture you're talking about citing it's a Marine when the Marines as far as I know didn't use the M1D

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