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Old September 1st, 2016, 10:48 AM   #1
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Hoppe's # 9 Worthless????

One of our members recently was kind enough to share an Article on "How to Properly Clean the Bore.." A very informative Article, convincing enough to send my off to find "Butche's" bore solvent. Ending up driving 60 miles to Hondo and to Mummy's, well supplied, Gun Store..

Before leaving the Range I fired 5 parting rounds using a known dirty burning ball powder. labored at the bench following the instructions from the Article, except I used Hoppe's # 9...

Than I followed up with wet patches using Butches's, something must have gone wrong, I was unable to get any additional fouling on the patches.

Conclusion: The writer of this Article is full of BS.. Art

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:04 AM   #2
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Was the barrel a high speed nitrited barrel ? Maybe nothing stuck ?

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:09 AM   #3
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Art,...sorry about chuckling at your expense.
That was me who posted that cleaning article. You are hilarious. I too thought the author of the article was full of it. I use LPS1 and my bore comes out very clean without the many, many strokes from the bore brush.
Sorry about you being curious enough to drive 60 miles.

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:11 AM   #4
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I use both hoppes and butchies both good solvents

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:12 AM   #5
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The barrel

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Was the barrel a high speed nitrited barrel ? Maybe nothing stuck ?


The barrel cleaned is a Nomur [sic] a NM M14 heavy model.. Art...

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:25 AM   #6
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Sock it to em Art.

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Old September 1st, 2016, 11:34 AM   #7
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you did a good Deed..

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Art,...sorry about chuckling at your expense.
That was me who posted that cleaning article. You are hilarious. I too thought the author of the article was full of it. I use LPS1 and my bore comes out very clean without the many, many strokes from the bore brush.
Sorry about you being curious enough to drive 60 miles.

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Actually, I needed to go to Hondo, it's the only place around that handles San Meguel Beer and Bering Cigars in the same Town.. Sixty miles in Texas is just warming the engine up. Good day to have a few laughs. Nice of you to write,, thank you... After my performance at the range this morning I almost went again...Art

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The barrel cleaned is a Nomur [sic] a NM M14 heavy model.. Art...
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Old September 1st, 2016, 12:25 PM   #9
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Surprised to hear that I've been imagining that I actually managed to clean my weapons for the last 45 years using Hoppe's.#9!!

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Old September 1st, 2016, 12:32 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=art luppino;2004689]Actually, I needed to go to Hondo, it's the only place around that handles San Meguel Beer and Bering Cigars in the same Town..
Been almost 50 years since I heard of San Meguel Beer in a far away land across the sea.
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Old September 1st, 2016, 12:36 PM   #11
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I have used Hoppe's since the mid-50's. It doubles as an air freshener. Hoppe's is a very effective solvent and was born in the days of corrosive primers (which it is still effective on). The current formulation has less Benzine than it used to. There is a secret to using Hoppe's effectively. First use the single nap cotton 2 1/4" (or so) square .30 cal. "milspec" type patches from Brownells and a slotted tip rod. Run a few "wet" patches through the bore and leave the rifle alone for 3 days. Come back every 3 days until you get a clean wet patch. Then come back a week later with a clean wet patch. It will come out dirty. Repeat at one week intervals until clean. You will use fewer patches this way. If you scrub the bore until you think it is clean and leave it, you will be either pleased or disappointed at how dirty the next patch will be. Hoppe's is a slow-working solvent that leaches microscopic particles from the grain of the steel. Those particles were embedded into the steel under pressure - sometimes 50Kpsi. It takes more than a few swipes to really clean a bore. I have put a "clean" barrel away for a month and came back with a wet patch of Hoppe's and retrieved green, blue, and black residue from the bore. Once I think it is clean, I may use some Butches Bore Shine.

I once had a collection of almost 300 milsurps, many of them Mosin Nagants and Mausers that had filthy bores. Some took "gun wool", JP paste, Kroil, bristle brushes, etc. to start with. But when the steel of the bore was finally found, Hoppe's did the best overall job from then on. It just took time. I have left Hoppe's in the bore for over a year in some cases with no rust appearing. I'm not suggesting that anyone else do that, but it has worked positively for me.

Finally: Be aware that there is such a thing as getting a bore TOO clean. Removing all of the trash in the grain of the steel may make accuracy suffer until the grain has some "filler" back in it. HTH

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Old September 1st, 2016, 12:44 PM   #12
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Another vote for Hoppe's #9. I have used it since my Drill Instructor (1960) told me it was the ONLY solvent to use. I have tried probably all the various and sundry bore cleaners on the market...many have come and gone. Several work as well as Hoppe's but none work better. And none of them smell as good.

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Dad used Hoppe's, taught me safe gun handling/care. I've always used it. For nostalgia and for the excellent smell. If it ain't broke...

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Old September 1st, 2016, 01:19 PM   #14
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Try mixing a little Ivory dish soap in it, it will cling to the bore better. use a small bottle and only do a ounce or so at a time.

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Old September 1st, 2016, 01:21 PM   #15
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I started with Hoppe's #9 some 36 years ago on my first rifles a ribbed Rem. 600 and a 788. One day about 2 yrs. ago ran out of it and tried Bore Tech Eliminator off reviews I read and never switched back. Now it's BTE, Red-N-Tacky NLGI-2 grease from Mao Mart, Slip 2000 EWL oil, and for Op-Rod guide/spring/spring guide this mid-viscosity Mil-Comm 3000 behind an idea I got watching one of Tony's videos though he never mentioned brand. Still like Ballistol for some things too and hot water/ammonia to flush Mosins after Yugo surp before the other stuff. This BTE works so well on the first couple of subsequent cleanings I had to light up the bores to see if it was actually working. It Does.

And by the way all formulated and made in the United States of America (only dispensation for Lucas/RnT with a few facilities in California). Hoppe's #9 not so much.

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