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Old September 2nd, 2016, 01:33 PM   #46
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There have been some interesting cleaning posts on how too and what too use....... I will state how I do it some are going too pull there hair out, grit there teeth and scream at the screen but none the less this is how I do it..

During the shooting season I don't clean the bore at all after a range session or match a quick wipe down of the outside, a few passes with a bore snake too remove any carbon and powder fouling remnants with a few turns of a chamber brush with some solvent on a patch. I store my rifle with a fresh solvent damp patch over the bolt face poked in the chamber, action closed, rifle upside down with T/G unlatched, done. Before using rifle again I will remove the solvent storage patch and a pass or two of the bore snake again.

Mid season or when I remember and hit the 500rd mark, my grooved piston gets the drill bit treatment and wipe down, done. However I did the M25's added vent mod in the tail of my gas cylinder some time ago and I have too say I haven't had anywhere near the same amount of crud formulation in the piston. Other than wiping off the piston at the 500rd interval I might skip the drill bit treatment until the end of the season. I use the traditional powders 4895's, Varget, 4320 nothing really exotic just your std. run of the mill bore foulers.

End of season, me and my rifle get nekid and get down with a full on detail cleaning and greasing. However I scrub and patch my bores from one direction chamber too muzzle, pulling 4 or 5 times. While the action is out of the stock, the barrel is plugged at the G/P and muzzle while secured too the bench muzzle down. Then I fill it up too the very top of the chamber with good old fashioned #9 for a long soaking 16-24hrs. After its drained you should see the filth in the drain bowl, then a few more brush pulls and a patch too gauge its cleanliness, and another 16-24hr soak followed with a few more brush pulls and a patch.

I am of the opinion that good old #9 is so slow and gentle it needs the most time too work. I fill the bore with enough solvent that any fouling and copper build up has time to be worked on and get under it, lifting away the layers from the bore and not get saturated with contaminates. The brushing between also helps break threw and loosen up those layers so the solvent can work better in doing its job the best it can. What copper comes out, is what comes out, I don't chase after it like I did before.

Yes, I use a lot of solvent but the big bottles are cheaper and there is enough too use for a few soakings depending on the barrel length and its caliber, also the up side is also that the solvent is always fresh never stale or flat.

That's how I do it.

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The thing I like the best about this thread is at least everyone is talking about how they clean and lube their rifles, as apposed to how much they neglect and abuse their rifles.

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Actually, I needed to go to Hondo, it's the only place around that handles San Meguel Beer and Bering Cigars in the same Town.. ...Art
You can actually drink San Miguel? Outside of drinking them for around 25 cents a beer in the PI, I've not been able to like them over here.

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So here's my question about all of this. Being relatively new here and with the M1A platform as well, I am obsessive/compulsive enough to read the SAI Owner's Manual in regards to usage and cleaning of the rifle.

It states that they recommend Shooter's Choice or Hoppe's Bench Rest solvents, not the "regular" Hoppe's NO. 9 for cleaning. It does not go into why, but just states this and to be aware of damage to the barrel from solvent overuse. I am assuming they mean this in regards to their barrels only.

I have been shooting rifles, shotguns and pistols for longer than I care to admit (hopefully I will one day be good at it) and I have always used Hoppe's NO. 9 to clean my gear.

Since I am usually in the dark about things, could some one please enlighten me about this?

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You can actually drink San Miguel? Outside of drinking them for around 25 cents a beer in the PI, I've not been able to like them over here.
As I said.....they aint the same unless mamasaan is handing you one in a bottle with the label rubbed mostly off, glass all scratched up, and the rim chipped.....; )

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You can actually drink San Miguel? Outside of drinking them for around 25 cents a beer in the PI, I've not been able to like them over here.
Nowdays, only when there is no Big Red.. Art

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The last time I drank a San Miguel, I was in the Philippines on my way home from VN. I was in the club, watching TV news, where they were talking about Tet, and Hue City. I had been in Hue 24 hours before. That still haunts me, because I knew my buddies were getting the crap kicked out of them.

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Well, surprise, they did.

I remember that in the 70's or 80's they did have a Hoppe's #9 cologne but I don't think it went over well with women.

It's like my love for the smell of JP4 jet fuel.
from my days on a Navy flight crew.

That smell doesn't get the ladies all gooey, that for sure.

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All I can say is: #9 work better than CLP for cleaning....

And, CLP ain't that bad.

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I use Car Quest carb&choke cleaner, Hoppes 9, or CLP. At least no one can complain about a lack of choices.

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So how long am I suppose to let this San Miguel sit in the barrel before patching?

It seems to be eating right through the gas system and it stripped all the TruOil off the stock.

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So how long am I suppose to let this San Miguel sit in the barrel before patching?

It seems to be eating right through the gas system and it stripped all the TruOil off the stock.

You still have a stock? Must be 3.2 San Miguel.

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Hoppe's for the gold at my home. But I clean my rifle about every 3 shooting sessions because I feel my rifle shoots better dirty. I hate wasting ammo to dirty the barrel again.

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So here's my question about all of this. Being relatively new here and with the M1A platform as well, I am obsessive/compulsive enough to read the SAI Owner's Manual in regards to usage and cleaning of the rifle.

It states that they recommend Shooter's Choice or Hoppe's Bench Rest solvents, not the "regular" Hoppe's NO. 9 for cleaning. It does not go into why, but just states this and to be aware of damage to the barrel from solvent overuse. I am assuming they mean this in regards to their barrels only.

I have been shooting rifles, shotguns and pistols for longer than I care to admit (hopefully I will one day be good at it) and I have always used Hoppe's NO. 9 to clean my gear.

Since I am usually in the dark about things, could some one please enlighten me about this?

Thanks in advance.
I can only guess as too there reason why but I suspect there reason is "Customer Rush" everyone today is in a hurry and deep down inside no one really likes too clean there weapon...

Like I said Hoppe's #9 is slow, so slow most have declared it weak and unworthy. It does work well for powder fouling.. But its slow on copper it gets saturated real easy so you need almost a half gallon of it too work. That's a good thing for me as I'm lazy and I don't have too worry about etching the bore due too over exposure like you will with the more aggressive cleaners.

That's my .02

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All I can say is: #9 work better than CLP for cleaning....

And, CLP ain't that bad.
???? I use CLP for wipe downs and my 1911 and that's about all I use it for, never in the bore.

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