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Old November 17th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #1
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Do you make your own jacketed bullets?

There is a company, maybe more than one, that sells equipment to make your own Jacketed bullets, does anyone have experience doing this? I would like to hear from those that can offer advise on this subject. Art

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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:18 PM   #2
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I've done it, still have some old .30-06 rounds with big, gaping hollow points we formed up for the Springfields and Garands many years ago. You don't want my advice cuz they shot pretty ragged. Ugly too, and frankly, at today's cost of clean copper you're ahead buying Berger's or Sierra's pills. If you wanna make your own bullets, cast is the way to go. All you need is wheel weights, a cook-pot, a bullet mold, a scale, some gas checks and lube.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:18 PM   #3
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I bought a set of C & H tool and die swaging dies ( about 15 years ago ) to make 30-30 bullets. They work ok. Before that I got a set of Corbin swaging & jacket drawing dies for .224 dia. bullets. The drawing dies are for making .22 cal. jackets out of fired .22 lr. cases. They work pretty good. It takes a fair amount of time, but, what else can one do in the winter, here in north west Pa?

I think Sierra's, Nosler's and Hornady's shoot better than mine.

If I were to do it again, I would buy Corbin's hydraulic equipment to make .308 bullets. Back then it was around $3000.00, now it would be about $10.000.00 to get set up. They do sell everything needed to make almost any kind of bullet.

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I bought a set of C & H tool and die swaging dies ( about 15 years ago ) to make 30-30 bullets. They work ok. Before that I got a set of Corbin swaging & jacket drawing dies for .224 dia. bullets. The drawing dies are for making .22 cal. jackets out of fired .22 lr. cases. They work pretty good. It takes a fair amount of time, but, what else can one do in the winter, here in north west Pa?

I think Sierra's, Nosler's and Hornady's shoot better than mine.

If I were to do it again, I would buy Corbin's hydraulic equipment to make .308 bullets. Back then it was around $3000.00, now it would be about $10.000.00 to get set up. They do sell everything needed to make almost any kind of bullet.
did the .22lr thing years ago. Corbin die set also, ran across a few thousand .22 cal jackets while cleaning reloading room. The .22lr pills did a number on varmints, I put 1 steel bb in the nose for some added effects.

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:21 PM   #5
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did the .22lr thing years ago. Corbin die set also, ran across a few thousand .22 cal jackets while cleaning reloading room. The .22lr pills did a number on varmints, I put 1 steel bb in the nose for some added effects.

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Thats a great idea,the BB. I'll give it a try.

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Corbin is the company that I would look at. I was looking at doing this at one point....Then I started doing the math....Dropped that idea quickly....

It would be worth it if your plan was to start a business possibly and REALLY had your heart into it. They have some business advice/references along with their product line. Im sure they would help you get started if thats your goal....

In the long run, cheaper to just buy Sierra's or whatever if you plan on shooting all your product. What is your time worth to you and will rolling your own pay you back for that time you invest....?


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Old November 25th, 2010, 08:17 PM   #7
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A few Central Texas bench rest shooters make their own bullets for competition. You may want to post on Benchrest Central, you may get a few Texans to respond. You may even find used equipment there.

In the early 80s when I visited Walt Berger to pick up some J4jackets from him, his operation in the garage was all based on Rockchucker presses.

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In the early 80s when I visited Walt Berger to pick up some J4jackets from him, his operation in the garage was all based on Rockchucker presses.
I'm surprised that Walt was making rifle bullets on Rockchuckers; I'd have thought it required more force than one could generate with an RC.

I swage some pistol bullets, including making .429" bullets from fired .40 S&W brass, and I'm getting set up to swage .224" bullets from .22 LR brass. There is a swaging forum at Cast Boolits, and another at Graybeard's Outdoors. The one at GBO doesn't get a lot of traffic any more, but there is still some useful info there.

FWIW, there are two Corbin brothers who sell swaging equipment, Dave and Richard; each has their own company. Dave's prices are significantly higher than Richard's (RCE), but delivery time from Dave tends to be much faster.

Dave also has (most of) a book on swaging on his site that you can download for free.

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You will be surprised how many bench rest bullets were made with Rock Chuckers. Neimi Engineering who makes some of the best Carbide swaging dies used to sell modified Rock Chuckers. Since I switched to High Power I never kept track of the bench rest world.

Yes, Walt and Eunice started bullet making in their garage. I shot bench rest with them and with the known names in benchrest from Texas in the early 80s.

Here is statement from one of the benchrest bullet makers, Al Nyhus, on Rock Chuckers. The link does not work anymore though.

"The key to accurate bullets is a perfect set of dies. As you know from making cast bullets allready, there is a world of difference between making something that looks like a bullet and something that measures and performs like a bullet should. I know quite a few bullet makers...those that make their living selling their bullets and those that just make bullet for themelves and maybe a few pals.

The relationship of the bullet base relative to the shank and nose of the bullet is the limiting factor in jacketed bullet performance. This relationship must remain perfect during the core seating process as well as the point up process. And this is where some companies dies excell..and some fail.

I use tool steel bullet dies made by Larry Blackmon. Neimi Engineering is the premier maker of carbide bullet dies in the country today. Before I started making my own bullets, I shot many, many thousands of bullets made on the excellent Neimi dies. I've heard good things about the dies made by Dave Detsch who is continuing the die business his father Clarence started.

All three of these companies offer converted Rockchucker presses. Larry Blackmon @ Bullet Swaging Supply offers a conversion kit that you can do yourself if you already own a Rockchucker. The RCBS Rockchucker is hands down the most popular press for bullet making and will do a good job for you.

Here's a link to some great opinions and Q&A stuff from some very good bullet makers: Bullet making"

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