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Old September 26th, 2010, 02:14 PM   #1
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Most accuret and reliable M1A ammo? Federal Gold Medal Match

What grain feeds most reliably in an M1A? Is Federal Gold Medal Match the best ammo?


Im getting failures to feed with this deer shock stuff

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=413744

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Old September 26th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #2
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M80 ball. NATO surplus 144.5 - 147 gr ammunition. I have used Radway Green, FN Belgian, Portugese, and South African with no issues. The port pressure can be off with slow burning powders found in commercial ammo.

FGMM does work very well. I roll my own and use 155, 168, and 175 gr Nosler CC BTHP projectiles and IMR-4895 powder.

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Old September 26th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #3
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I like the Winchester white box Q????whatever. the imitation ball ammo that is put together in my ammo factory is a bit more accurate though. My imitation 5.56 ain't bad either.

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I don't know from your post if your asking about ammo in general or hunting ammo. If your looking for reliable feeding hunting ammo I used Remingtion 150grn or 165 grn PSP (pointed soft point) with no issues. Killed many a Deer with the 150's.

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For factory ammo, I like the American Eagle (federal) 168gr 7.62x51 made specifically for the M1A rifle. It uses a 168gr HPBT projectile. It's very clean out of the box, it cycles and shoots very well through my standard model, also it can be found for about $15-$17 a box, cheaper in bulk. Also, has a nice headstamp (like it matters) and is reloadable. When i roll my own i use a Sierra 168gr. HPBT under 40.5 gr of IMR 4895. Which produces a extremely similar round with great accuracy.

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What grain feeds most reliably in an M1A? Is Federal Gold Medal Match the best ammo?


Im getting failures to feed with this deer shock stuff

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=413744
No. The powder charge spread can be as much as .8grains.

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Old September 26th, 2010, 06:23 PM   #7
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Im looking for long range extremly accurate combat ammo that is also field reliable as in sealed. I heard Federal Gold match medal was the best of the best.

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Im looking for long range extremly accurate combat ammo that is also field reliable as in sealed. I heard Federal Gold match medal was the best of the best.

You should try a few flavors and figure out what works best for your rifle.

FWIW... Combat ammunition ain't all that accurate. Look for M118 match ammo. (Lake City)

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Old September 26th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #9
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"extremly accurate combat ammo "

+1 for No such thing....or M118 being the closest.
But you're looking for an easy way out of a much more complicated issue:

How to find and tune the best performing loads for your gun, for the conditions you usually encounter.
There are no easy shortcuts to load development:
What's your barrel twist/length....what bullet weight works best with what powder for your use ...and range limits.

I'm with you though.
Let us know what you find so we can avoid all the work too.
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FWIW: Gold Medal Match usually works well for a lot guns, so if you've got the cash...go with it.

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Some of the M80 military surplus ammunition just might shot as well in your rifle as the top of the line Gold Metal Match ammunition and cost a lot less per round. Some of the ammunition I have tested over the years below with scores. A full listing can be located here... Good luck with which one your rifle likes as good as candy...

1, M118LR Lake City from 2003. Top score of 200-13X, on a SR-1 NRA standard 100 yard target, 1-20 round mag only with my NM M1A.
2. M118SB Lake City from 1963, 200-10X.
3, Radway Green surplus from 1990, 200-10X.
4, M118SB Lake City from 1985, a 199-12X.
5, Australian MF surplus from 1966, 199-10X.
6, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1979, a 199-10X.
7, M852 Lake City from 1985, 198-13X.
8, Radway Green surplus from 1985, 198-12X.
9, Belgium surplus from 1977, 198-10X.
10, Radway Green surplus from 1995, 198-8X
11, South African surplus from 1980, 198-6X.
12, Santa Barbra surplus from 1980, 197-14X.
13, Argentine surplus from 1983, 197-8X.
14, German DAG, surplus from 1976, 197-8X.
15, Austria surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
16, Greek surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
17, German MEN 41, surplus from 1969, 197-6X.
18, Singapore surplus from 1986, 196-11X.
19, Israeli surplus from 1974, 196-10X.
20, Australian ADI surplus from 1988, 196-8X.
21, Bosnian M118 surplus from 2003, 196-8X.
22, Yugoslavia surplus from 2002, 196-6X.
23, Malaysian surplus from 1982, 195-6X.
24, Malaysian surplus from 1983, 194-9X.
25, Lithuanian surplus from 2003, 194-6X.
26, Yugoslavia surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
27, Venezuelan surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
28, Denmark, surplus from 1993, 193-2X.
29, Canadian, surplus from 1970, 192-8X.
30, Chilean, surplus from 1976, 191-4X.
31, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1978, 190-4X.
32, Austria surplus from 1978, 190-3X.
33, South African surplus from 1981, 189-1X.
34, Pakistan military surplus from 1979. Score of 188-4X.
35, Indonesian surplus from 1985, 187-1X.

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You should try a few flavors and figure out what works best for your rifle.

FWIW... Combat ammunition ain't all that accurate. Look for M118 match ammo. (Lake City)
How would lake city compare to federal gold medal match? I am looking for durable ammo that has sealed primers and powder for long term field durability.

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No. The powder charge spread can be as much as .8grains.
Could that deer shock feed in my m1a? I heard the best grain is 168 for reliable feeding? I have two M1A standards.

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This is truly the Land of Enchantment, this morning I watched as the March of the Tarantulas came on by the roads and fields this time of year on my way to the rifle range. Once again a great day on the range this morning, with party sunny/cloudy skies, Temp 67.1 - 70.9 F, wind at 2.0- 3.5 MPH right out of the Northeast, humidity very high at 86%, elevation on range is 5,928 feet. I brought out my NM M1A.

Standard 100 yard range target, using my good eye.

This morning I started out with the American Eagle 7.62x51mm OTM specially designed for M1A's, it's 168 grain OTM ammunition.

Well the first string was a 198-6X with average of 0.989" MOA, (lot V21X596). Headstamp FC 10 7.62-M1A, bright shiny brass.

2nd grouping a little better with a 200-10X with average of 0.920" MOA, (Lot V21X596). Headstamp FC 10 7.62-M1A, bright shiny brass.

Then I shifted to the 220 yard targets, 10 out of 10 hits on the metal Gong. Headstamp FC 10 7.62-M1A, bright shiny brass.

Then I moved over onto the 560 yards target, using still the American Eagle 7.62x51mm OTM ammunition from '10, I hit 10 out of 10 on the metal Gongs.

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Yeah. I'll buy all that stuff they can make. Works great in my 700 too.

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I also like Radway Green M80. I just picked up two, 1k round cases (84 and 89 headstamp). Shoots great in my NM, but no M80 shoots super well from my Supermatch.

The 175 gr FGMM I bought from the CMP is fantastic. Shooting 1 - 2 MOA with irons at 200 yards. Anyone claiming a sub-MOA load without a scope is fulla BS. 10 shot groups anyway.

M852 has also been good to me, as is M118LR. I'll pass on the Special Ball (SB) variety.

168 and 175 gr handloads are impossible to beat for a given rifle. I start a separate development for each rifle and go up from 40.7 to 41.5 gr IMR-4895. Five groups at 0.2 gr intervals. I have a chrono and know what velocity they group well in (2600 - 2650 FPS). You'll know when you've hit the sweet spot. If you are too lazy to perform a proper development than you will never max out the accuracy.

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