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Old March 26th, 2010, 08:58 AM   #16
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I've reloaded Federal (and no Sherlock, I'm not talking about NATO brass) off and on for years and haven't had any problems that I could notice, but then I load light most of the time and only recently got involved in trying to obtain max accuracy. My opinion is that most people that complain about Federal brass are probably loading on the high end of the .308's capability, that being said, I do prefer WCC NATO brass. People will tell you to reload brass no more than 5 times but I can reload my WCC brass at least 10 times before I even start to worry about it failing. I've done it for more than 25 years so please don't lecture me on how dangerous it is, as I said before I load on the light side and I believe that light loads are why I get very good brass life. I'm not telling anybody to do what I do I'm just describing what I do and the reason I think it works. I do agree that you can't get as many reloads with Federal brass so it isn't my preferred brass to work with but I don't just toss it out if I have some.

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Old March 26th, 2010, 03:25 PM   #17
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Point taken.

I guess that's why you call yourself Sherlock....a bit smarter than the rest of us.

Recently when shooting with the AMU over the past few years they have been using 75 gr Atlanta Arms .223 Rem ammunition.
No, not a bit smarter than anyone here

I got the name, mostly in jest, 'cause before retiring I freelanced as a fraud investigator for a few of the nations largest insurance carriers. Please don't hold it against me

For example, if somebody reported that his large cabin cruiser sank to the bottom of Lake Powell and it came to light that he was behind a couple of payments at the time it would raise a red flag and somebody like yours truly would be commissioned to investigate. Most were not nearly as dramatic.

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Old March 26th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #18
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That is a disappointing lead - I have always been a fan of Federal products. So when buying loaded ammo with the secondary intention of reusing the brass, which of the big companies do you recommend?
- Anything Lake City/Milspec?
- Remington (I have been told that their brass has issues)?
- Winchester?
- BHA?
The only loaded ammo that I've purchased in the last five or so years has been LC M80 Ball and LC M193 back when they sold for $180 & $170 per 1K respectively. I was fortunate to score a whole bunch of it in those good ol' days. Heck, I still have several cases of M852 Match and several of M2 Ball that I scored from the CMP way back when. As of late I handload everything else.

Through the years I've learned what brass works for me and what doesn't. Here's a short list of the brass that I prefer -

7.62 NATO/.308
LC
Winchester
Lapua (for serious target use in my boltguns only)

5.56 NATO/.223
Winchester
LC
IMI
Lapua (again, for serious target use in my boltguns only)

6.5/284
Lapua

6.5x47 Lapua
Lapua

.300WM
Winchester

.243W
Winchester
Lapua (serious target loads only)

.30-'06
LC
FA
Winchester

7x57, 6.5x55, .22-250, etc.
Winchester

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say that the above mentioned brass is the only stuff that's any good. It's just the brass that I've found to be all-around the most consistant in quality for my purposes. I don't load light very often. I don't particularly want to push the ABSOLUTE limits of anything that I load for but in most cases, for me at least, performance across the course or in the field seems to go hand-in-hand with accuracy. For example, my M118LR duplicate loads are as accurate as any 175SMK load that I've tried in all of my .308's and they're pretty much at the upper end of safe. Same for my A191 .300WM duplicate loads, also my Mk262, M855, and M193 duplicate loads for the .223.

As far as Federal GMM brass goes, I don't mind relating my disappointing experiences with the crap as none of it will hold a primer pocket when loaded to the duplicate specs for the above mentioned loads. This fact alone renders it useless for my purposes. I don't see the point of loading light and wasting expensive bullets and powder for the sake of conserving crappy brass by shooting under-performing ammunition.

But that's just me

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Old March 28th, 2010, 06:33 AM   #19
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Not to get the Last Word in Here BUT, I like Federal Products also having said that I have shot a lot of Federal Brass, brand new stuff and once fired, the performance is Excellent but in every case the Primer Pocket turned Loose, some of it if not most of it the Primer was gone after the Round ejected, if not on the first than surely after the second firing and if it was still there the Pocket felt so Loose ( I Hand Prime) that I was afraid to use it again and it belonged to the Scrap Man!
PS Sorry about being so Long Winded Here but the above is from Personal Experience, I have almost a Full 5 Gallon Bucket of fired Federal Brass with no Primers in them that is ready to get me some Money from the Junk Man!

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Not to get the Last Word in Here BUT, I like Federal Products also having said that I have shot a lot of Federal Brass, brand new stuff and once fired, the performance is Excellent but in every case the Primer Pocket turned Loose, some of it if not most of it the Primer was gone after the Round ejected, if not on the first than surely after the second firing and if it was still there the Pocket felt so Loose ( I Hand Prime) that I was afraid to use it again and it belonged to the Scrap Man!
PS Sorry about being so Long Winded Here but the above is from Personal Experience, I have almost a Full 5 Gallon Bucket of fired Federal Brass with no Primers in them that is ready to get me some Money from the Junk Man!
If you've already got the brass, segregate and mark it with how many times its been reloaded. When any problems arise, such as in TrungSi's post sh**can the lot and sell to the brassman.

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