M14 Forum


Imr 4064

This is a discussion on Imr 4064 within the Ammunition forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; I did a search here going back quite a while on using IMR 4064 in the M1A. This subject has been beat to death more ...


Go Back   M14 Forum > M14 M1A Forum > Ammunition


Reply
 
LinkBack Moderator Tools Display Modes

Old February 12th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #1
Scout Sniper
 
MrJitters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Vermont Republic
Posts: 806
Imr 4064

I did a search here going back quite a while on using IMR 4064 in the M1A. This subject has been beat to death more than a few times, so I thought what's one more time. Sorry

How do you guys feel about it? Personally, I am having good results with IMR 4895, but suddenly feel the need to try a different powder and I have some 4064 to burn.

Anyone have a favorite starting load using LC brass, #34 primers and 168grain bullets? My research has me starting around 40g. Opinions?

MrJitters is offline  
Remove Ads
Old February 12th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #2
Squad Leader
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northwest Georgia
Posts: 236
Frankly, Jitters, IMR4895 has been my powder for the last 35 years. It always shoots good, I trust it and I know how to use it. There is no way I'll ever change. It also keeps my freezer loaded with fresh venison. When you find a good thing don't mess with it or deviate from it.

Silvertip 44 is offline  
Old February 12th, 2010, 06:37 PM   #3
Rifleman
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington
Posts: 45
I have had good results with both H4895 and IMR4064. The 4064 seems a bit more accurate for my rifle/load combination.

tdow is offline  
Old February 12th, 2010, 11:41 PM   #4
Platoon Sergeant
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SW Montana
Posts: 385
4064 has been my everyday powder since 1976.
More recently I have reserved it for my Supermatch.
42.0gr with CCI 200 primers, 168gr Nosler or Sierra.
I have been using TAC for every thing else as I got a lot of it cheap.

highbrow is offline  
Old February 12th, 2010, 11:52 PM   #5
Rest in Peace
 
Visigoth9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 2,142
I always keep a jug of IMR4895 around

it helps to remind me why I like IMR4064 so much better

My GI tubes love the IMR4064 even though it is a pain to work with

my favorite 100 yard load is Sierra 150 grain MK's over 43 grains of IMR4064 with a CCI #34 primer

Visigoth9 is offline  
Old February 13th, 2010, 04:45 AM   #6
Scout Sniper
 
MrJitters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Vermont Republic
Posts: 806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visigoth9 View Post
I always keep a jug of IMR4895 around

it helps to remind me why I like IMR4064 so much better

My GI tubes love the IMR4064 even though it is a pain to work with

my favorite 100 yard load is Sierra 150 grain MK's over 43 grains of IMR4064 with a CCI #34 primer
Thanx for the replies.

Vis, what are you using for brass?

MrJitters is offline  
Old February 13th, 2010, 08:25 AM   #7
Scout Sniper
 
TCAF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Western MI.
Posts: 756
IMR 4064 works well in my SAI NM. 42.0 grs in a LC case, CCI BR2 or 200 and the SMK 168. Never tried 4895, never felt the need.

TCAF is offline  
Old February 13th, 2010, 08:32 AM   #8
Old Salt
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Endwell NY
Posts: 1,180
4064 is fine.
It is more bulky than 4895, so it fills the case more.
4064 does not meter as well as 4895, so for best accuracy at long distances the powder charges should be individually weighed.
For shooting out to about 300 yards, powder charges thru a meter should be fine.

And yes, starting at 40 grains of powder is good.

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY

JayKosta is offline  
Old February 13th, 2010, 10:02 AM   #9
Scout Sniper
 
MrJitters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Vermont Republic
Posts: 806
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKosta View Post
4064 is fine.
It is more bulky than 4895, so it fills the case more.
4064 does not meter as well as 4895, so for best accuracy at long distances the powder charges should be individually weighed.
For shooting out to about 300 yards, powder charges thru a meter should be fine.

And yes, starting at 40 grains of powder is good.

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY
Good to know. I individually weigh each powder charge anyway so the 4064 is not going to be a problem in that regard. I will load up some LC Match brass with 40 grains and give it a go. Again, thanx for all the replies.

MrJitters is offline  
Old February 14th, 2010, 03:01 PM   #10
Rest in Peace
 
Visigoth9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 2,142
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJitters View Post
Thanx for the replies.

Vis, what are you using for brass?
Remington new brass and Lapua new brass (when I feel rich)

I have gotten really nice performance out of the Rem brass once it has been match prepped...the primer pockets hold up nicely and the stretch has not been excessive

I worked up a batch of same using new IVI military brass that I will try when the weather permits

Visigoth9 is offline  
Old February 14th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #11
Scout Sniper
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Home
Posts: 711
When my GI Brass Russian 4895 runs out, I have AA 4064 ready for my Dillon 650. I hear it's a shorter grain version that works better in progressive loaders.
My components will be Nosler 168's and 175's in LC once fired mil brass. Primers will be WLR or CCI's.
I'm planning on seeing how 41.5 does as a starer load. With the Russian 4895..It's a sweet spot for my LRB and SAI Supermatch...with 100% function, very good accuracy, minimal primer deformation and doesn't ding up too badly at all on ejection.

drshame is offline  
Old February 14th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #12
Lifer
 
davecampperry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: OKLAHOMA
Posts: 2,325
My Devine does not like 4895, either Dupont or Hodgdon. It tolerates 748, but loves IMR 4064, with LC case, Winchester Large Rifle primer, 168 HPBT, and 40.0 grains. I use 45.0 grains (compressed) with the Speer 130 FBHP when I can find them.

davecampperry is offline  
Old February 15th, 2010, 06:36 AM   #13
Old Salt
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,371
My 168 SMKs shoot so good with IMR-4895 that I've never bothered to try anything else (may have to if that powder doesn't become available again). For my 600yd loads with 175g SMKs, IMR-4064 works really well.

KYShooter is offline  
Old February 15th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #14
Master Gunner
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 946
Quote:
Originally Posted by drshame View Post
When my GI Brass Russian 4895 runs out, I have AA 4064 ready for my Dillon 650. I hear it's a shorter grain version that works better in progressive loaders.
My components will be Nosler 168's and 175's in LC once fired mil brass. Primers will be WLR or CCI's.
I'm planning on seeing how 41.5 does as a starer load. With the Russian 4895..It's a sweet spot for my LRB and SAI Supermatch...with 100% function, very good accuracy, minimal primer deformation and doesn't ding up too badly at all on ejection.
A-4064 is a bit slower than IMR-4064, or at least with some loads it is. It used to be Czech-made but current production A-4064 is made in Canada at the IMR plant. It is short grain. The load data hasn't changed but it is very similar to IMR-4320 which is also a shorter grain powder. I think this change was made about a year ago. It should say where it is made.

John Coleman is offline  
Old February 15th, 2010, 03:28 PM   #15
Scout Sniper
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Home
Posts: 711
So if it's a little slower.....

Does that mean it may take a few more tenths of a grain to equal the same performance of IMR4064?

If so, I' d appreciate hearing it so I don't get too surprised if it looks hotter than it really is.

I'm still thinking of about 41 grains as a starter..building up slowly to see what gives the best accuracy without too much primer deformation.
I'm a believer in the softest, accurate loads rather than powerhouse performance that';s near the edge for primer flattening and overly aggressive extraction.

drshame is offline  
Reply

  M14 Forum > M14 M1A Forum > Ammunition



Search tags for this page
4064 175 scout
,
7.62 russian imr 4064
,
accurate 4064 data
,

imr 4064

,
imr 4064 br2 primer
,
imr 4064 m14 loads
,
imr 4064 m1a
,
imr 4064 m1a scout
,

imr4064

,
is aa 4064 the same as imr 4064 ?
,
is imr 4064 a single base powder?
,
m1a imr 4064
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Moderator Tools
Display Modes


Similar M14 Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
IMR 4064 & 150gr Hornady FMJBT GreatPlainsRifleman Ammunition 22 July 6th, 2013 07:53 AM
IMR 4064, failure to cylce action? angelonm Ammunition 32 November 28th, 2011 01:33 PM
Imr 4064 Load For M1a MARINES84-88 Ammunition 8 March 1st, 2009 02:17 PM
Imr 4064 blackopsleader Ammunition 1 April 14th, 2008 08:17 AM
Imr 4064 octanejunkie Ammunition 10 January 6th, 2008 10:04 PM



Top Gun Sites Top Sites List